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Meanwhile, in Florida...

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  • George KG George K

    @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

    Here is the only definition in all of that that I found:

    Mask means a material covering the nose and mouth of the wearer, excluding face shields.4

    Too lazy to look...

    Did his face covering meet those standards?

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    @george-k said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

    @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

    Here is the only definition in all of that that I found:

    Mask means a material covering the nose and mouth of the wearer, excluding face shields.4

    Too lazy to look...

    Did his face covering meet those standards?

    My wife’s wouldn’t work. Her aunt’s would probably cover a family of 4…

    The Brad

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      Apparently there’d been a bit of a shaky landing on the way in, which had created some skid marks

      I was only joking

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/masks/mask-travel-guidance.html

        Excerpt below:

        ============
        The following are attributes of masks needed to fulfill the requirements of the Order. CDC will update this guidance as needed.

        • A properly worn mask completely covers the nose and mouth.
        • Cloth masks should be made with two or more layers of a breathable fabric that is tightly woven (i.e., fabrics that do not let light pass through when held up to a light source).
        • Mask should be secured to the head with ties, ear loops, or elastic bands that go behind the head. If gaiters are worn, they should have two layers of fabric or be folded to make two layers.
        • Mask should fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face.
        • Mask should be a solid piece of material without slits, exhalation valves, or punctures.

        The following attributes are additionally acceptable as long as masks meet the requirements above.

        • Masks can be either manufactured or homemade.
        • Masks can be reusable or disposable.
        • Masks can have inner filter pockets.
        • Clear masks or cloth masks with a clear plastic panel may be used to facilitate communication with people who are hearing impaired or others who need to see a speaker’s mouth to understand speech.
        • Medical masks and N-95 respirators fulfill the requirements of the Order.

        The following do not fulfill the requirements of the Order.

        • Masks worn in a way that does not cover both the mouth and nose
        • Face shields or goggles (face shields or goggles may be worn to supplement a mask that meets above required attributes)
        • Scarves, ski masks, balaclavas, or bandannas
        • Shirt or sweater collars (e.g., turtleneck collars) pulled up over the mouth and nose.
        • Masks made from loosely woven fabric or that are knitted, i.e., fabrics that let light pass through
        • Masks made from materials that are hard to breathe through (such as vinyl, plastic or leather)
        • Masks containing slits, exhalation valves, or punctures
        • Masks that do not fit properly (large gaps, too loose or too tight)

        ========

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          LuFins Dad
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          Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

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            @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

            Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

            Actually, this part could be relevant

            4 A properly worn mask completely covers the nose and mouth of the wearer. A mask should be secured to the head, including with ties or ear loops. A mask should fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face. Masks do not include face shields. Masks can be either manufactured or homemade and should be a solid piece of material without slits, exhalation valves, or punctures. Medical masks and N-95 respirators fulfill the requirements of this SD. CDC guidance for attributes of acceptable masks in the context of this SD is available

            In this case, if the panties completely covered his mouth and nose, he’s good to go.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

              AxtremusA Away
              AxtremusA Away
              Axtremus
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              @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

              Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

              TSA’s publication refers to CDC.

              https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/files/tsa-210819-6-4_4-ea-1546-21-01b.pdf page 2 footnote 4 refers to CDC‘s guidance, the one I excerpted earlier.

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                @axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                Cloth masks should be made with two or more layers of a breathable fabric that is tightly woven (i.e., fabrics that do not let light pass through when held up to a light source).

                Mr. Jenne's mask probably didn't have the required two or more layers.

                Lock him up.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                  Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

                  Actually, this part could be relevant

                  4 A properly worn mask completely covers the nose and mouth of the wearer. A mask should be secured to the head, including with ties or ear loops. A mask should fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face. Masks do not include face shields. Masks can be either manufactured or homemade and should be a solid piece of material without slits, exhalation valves, or punctures. Medical masks and N-95 respirators fulfill the requirements of this SD. CDC guidance for attributes of acceptable masks in the context of this SD is available

                  In this case, if the panties completely covered his mouth and nose, he’s good to go.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                  @lufins-dad said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                  Irrelevant. The TSA description as posted is relevant.

                  Actually, this part could be relevant

                  4 A properly worn mask completely covers the nose and mouth of the wearer. A mask should be secured to the head, including with ties or ear loops. A mask should fit snugly but comfortably against the side of the face. Masks do not include face shields. Masks can be either manufactured or homemade and should be a solid piece of material without slits, exhalation valves, or punctures. Medical masks and N-95 respirators fulfill the requirements of this SD. CDC guidance for attributes of acceptable masks in the context of this SD is available

                  In this case, if the panties completely covered his mouth and nose, he’s good to go.

                  We all know he was deliberately being a knobhead. He got exactly what he deserved, rules or not.

                  I was only joking

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                    What Phibes said. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                      Cloth masks should be made with two or more layers of a breathable fabric that is tightly woven (i.e., fabrics that do not let light pass through when held up to a light source).

                      Mr. Jenne's mask probably didn't have the required two or more layers.

                      Lock him up.

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                      @copper said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                      @axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Florida...:

                      Cloth masks should be made with two or more layers of a breathable fabric that is tightly woven (i.e., fabrics that do not let light pass through when held up to a light source).

                      Mr. Jenne's mask probably didn't have the required two or more layers.

                      Lock him up.

                      Au contraire. Women's panties have two layers in the crotch, one end unsewn.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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