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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #79

    Norfolk VA cop fired because he anonymously donated $25 to Rittenhouse defense fund. He should end up with a big settlement if the facts are as he states.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-cop-terminated-for-donating-to-rittenhouse-defense/vi-AAQXQWC?ocid=msedgntp

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

      It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

      At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.

      Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.

      Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.

      Complaining isn’t going to fix this.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by Jolly
      #80

      @doctor-phibes said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

      It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

      At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.

      Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.

      Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.

      Complaining isn’t going to fix this.

      I agree with you. I'd also like to see the defendant's name not released until after the trial is over.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
        George KG Offline
        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #81

        No more crossing state lines.

        Screen Shot 2021-11-21 at 3.17.22 PM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          critical race theory

          There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

          Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

          :::

          This shit.

          :::

          JollyJ Offline
          JollyJ Offline
          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #82

          @aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          critical race theory

          There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

          Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

          :::

          This shit.

          :::

          Hot Aussie wimmenz?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            critical race theory

            There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

            Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

            :::

            This shit.

            :::

            Hot Aussie wimmenz?

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #83

            @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            Hot Aussie wimmenz?

            Well, there is that. 😄

            But also far less liberal poisoning in the universities.

            Please love yourself.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #84

              The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

              11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

              ​Dear church,

              In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

              Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

              When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

              Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

              In Christ,

              The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
              Presiding Bishop
              Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

              JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
              • George KG George K

                The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                ​Dear church,

                In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                In Christ,

                The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                Presiding Bishop
                Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                JollyJ Offline
                JollyJ Offline
                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #85

                @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                ​Dear church,

                In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                In Christ,

                The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                Presiding Bishop
                Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                  11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                  ​Dear church,

                  In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                  Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                  When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                  Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                  In Christ,

                  The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                  Presiding Bishop
                  Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                  I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #86

                  @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                  Ahem...HERself.

                  Get with it, redneck.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                    11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                    ​Dear church,

                    In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                    Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                    When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                    Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                    In Christ,

                    The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                    Presiding Bishop
                    Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                    I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                    JollyJ Offline
                    JollyJ Offline
                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #87

                    @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                    11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                    ​Dear church,

                    In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                    Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                    When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                    Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                    In Christ,

                    The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                    Presiding Bishop
                    Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                    I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                    I'm a recovering Baptist. Women have no business in the pulpit. If God doesn't delineate that role for them, who am I to argue?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #88

                      Everybody keeps using the word Vigilantism… My vocabulary must be even worse than I thought, because the word obviously doesn’t mean what I thought it did so please help me out.

                      Does Vigilantism mean:

                      A) Cleaning Graffiti?
                      B) Putting out small fires?
                      C) Handing out medical supplies?
                      D) Asking people to not loot and vandalize a car dealership?
                      E) Running from a mob that is chasing you?
                      F) Getting hit by rocks and other objects?
                      G) Having an insane, suicidal pedophile try to grab your gun and only defending yourself then?
                      H) Shoot at another guy AFTER he tries to kick your skull in?
                      I) Shoot another guy AFTER he has started beating you in the head with a skateboard?
                      J) Shooting another guy AFTER he pointed a gun at you after pretending to surrender?

                      So which of that is vigilantism?

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                        @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                        The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                        11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                        ​Dear church,

                        In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                        Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                        When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                        Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                        In Christ,

                        The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                        Presiding Bishop
                        Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                        I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                        I'm a recovering Baptist. Women have no business in the pulpit. If God doesn't delineate that role for them, who am I to argue?

                        LarryL Offline
                        LarryL Offline
                        Larry
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #89

                        @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                        @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                        @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                        The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                        11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                        ​Dear church,

                        In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                        Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                        When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                        Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                        In Christ,

                        The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                        Presiding Bishop
                        Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                        I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                        I'm a recovering Baptist. Women have no business in the pulpit. If God doesn't delineate that role for them, who am I to argue?

                        Queers don't have any business being in the pulpit, either.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Everybody keeps using the word Vigilantism… My vocabulary must be even worse than I thought, because the word obviously doesn’t mean what I thought it did so please help me out.

                          Does Vigilantism mean:

                          A) Cleaning Graffiti?
                          B) Putting out small fires?
                          C) Handing out medical supplies?
                          D) Asking people to not loot and vandalize a car dealership?
                          E) Running from a mob that is chasing you?
                          F) Getting hit by rocks and other objects?
                          G) Having an insane, suicidal pedophile try to grab your gun and only defending yourself then?
                          H) Shoot at another guy AFTER he tries to kick your skull in?
                          I) Shoot another guy AFTER he has started beating you in the head with a skateboard?
                          J) Shooting another guy AFTER he pointed a gun at you after pretending to surrender?

                          So which of that is vigilantism?

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #90

                          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                          G) Having an insane, suicidal pedophile try to grab your gun and only defending yourself then?

                          Well, in fairness, Rittenhouse didn't know that he was a suicidal pedophile.

                          So cut the suicidal pedophile some slack, okay?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            G) Having an insane, suicidal pedophile try to grab your gun and only defending yourself then?

                            Well, in fairness, Rittenhouse didn't know that he was a suicidal pedophile.

                            So cut the suicidal pedophile some slack, okay?

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                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #91

                            @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            G) Having an insane, suicidal pedophile try to grab your gun and only defending yourself then?

                            Well, in fairness, Rittenhouse didn't know that he was a suicidal pedophile.

                            So cut the suicidal pedophile some slack, okay?

                            Yeah.., he just got lucky and had to shoot a guy that needed to be shot already.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #92

                              Which brings up another point...I don't know in this case, but many people, especially antifa types, are professional protesters. Many of the people in the Kenosha riot were from other states.

                              Surely there is some way to discourage outside money from supporting these folks...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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