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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

    Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

    It may very well Bev absurd, but take into account the costs of drunk driving to the insurance industry. You can be rest assured civil interest groups such as MADD are the small lobbyists pushing for these regulations. My money is on the insurance industry to be the prime mover behind this and similar safety regulations. It would try such on its own but knows that it is much better to get the legislators on board and enact appropriate legislation. It’s a big win for insurers given the current medical and civil costs of drunk driving to the insurance industry.

    As always, follow the money.

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    LuFins Dad
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    @renauda said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

    @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

    Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

    It may very well absurd, but take into account the costs of drunk driving to the insurance industry. You can be rest assured civil interest groups such as MADD are a small lobbyists pushing for these regulations. My money is on the insurance industry to be the prime mover behind this and similar safety regulations. It would try such on its own but knows that it is much better to get the legislators on board and enact appropriate legislation. It’s a big win for insurers given the current medical and civil costs of drunk driving to the insurance industry.

    As always, follow the money.

    So are the end results lower premiums for customers or record profits for the insurers?

    The Brad

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    • MikM Offline
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      #29

      I'm agnostic on this - whether it is good or bad remains to be seen. It could be something great depending on how it is implemented.

      Scenario - you are camping pretty far out. You and all your buddies are drinking and someone gets hurt. How do you get help?

      You are the designated driver, all your friends are drunk. How does the car determine that only the passengers have been drinking?

      All these things have to be thought out.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I'm agnostic on this - whether it is good or bad remains to be seen. It could be something great depending on how it is implemented.

        Scenario - you are camping pretty far out. You and all your buddies are drinking and someone gets hurt. How do you get help?

        You are the designated driver, all your friends are drunk. How does the car determine that only the passengers have been drinking?

        All these things have to be thought out.

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        @mik said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

        I'm agnostic on this - whether it is good or bad remains to be seen. It could be something great depending on how it is implemented.

        Yeah, that's kind of how I feel, too.

        There's no point getting all over-excited about something when we don't know the details of how it works.

        I was only joking

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          Yup, blood alcohol content is a pretty good indicator, but it is not the same for everyone

          Assuming the democrats put the energy industry out of business,
          by the time this gets implemented there won't be any more cars to worry about.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @renauda said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

            @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

            Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

            It may very well absurd, but take into account the costs of drunk driving to the insurance industry. You can be rest assured civil interest groups such as MADD are a small lobbyists pushing for these regulations. My money is on the insurance industry to be the prime mover behind this and similar safety regulations. It would try such on its own but knows that it is much better to get the legislators on board and enact appropriate legislation. It’s a big win for insurers given the current medical and civil costs of drunk driving to the insurance industry.

            As always, follow the money.

            So are the end results lower premiums for customers or record profits for the insurers?

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            #32

            @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

            So are the end results lower premiums for customers or record profits for the insurers?

            Lower premiums? Almost certainly once most vehicles on the road are equipped with the technology and statistics shows its efficacy.

            Record profits? As always banks and insurance companies do not lose money.

            Elbows up!

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              #33

              I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

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                @jon-nyc said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

                People will just end up having sex with it.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @jon-nyc said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                  I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

                  People will just end up having sex with it.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @horace said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                  @jon-nyc said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                  I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

                  People will just end up having sex with it.

                  Not if it's got Jon's breath in it, they won't.

                  I was only joking

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                    That’ll just grow the market.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      I'm agnostic on this - whether it is good or bad remains to be seen. It could be something great depending on how it is implemented.

                      Scenario - you are camping pretty far out. You and all your buddies are drinking and someone gets hurt. How do you get help?

                      You are the designated driver, all your friends are drunk. How does the car determine that only the passengers have been drinking?

                      All these things have to be thought out.

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                      @mik said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                      I'm agnostic on this - whether it is good or bad remains to be seen. It could be something great depending on how it is implemented.

                      Scenario - you are camping pretty far out. You and all your buddies are drinking and someone gets hurt. How do you get help?

                      You are the designated driver, all your friends are drunk. How does the car determine that only the passengers have been drinking?

                      All these things have to be thought out.

                      I have no doubt that the technology will work very effectively and will save countless lives. I also have no doubt that there will be some few incidents where there will be an accident when the cameras malfunction and a crash results or a situation like Mik suggests, but those will be the extremely rare incidents when compared to the number of drunk driving incidents prevented.

                      That still doesn’t change the fact that they are crossing a severe line by forcing a driver to prove their innocence before allowing them to drive. That is outrageous.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                        I'm going to market little cans of compressed breath with a mouth shaped top for drunks to use to get around the breathalyzer.

                        I was reading one time where a guy who had been convicted of drunk driving and had a sensor installed in his car used his young daughter to blow into the device when he was technically too drunk to drive. 🙄

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