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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Thread title changed to continue talk about the trial.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

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        @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

        The DA is making a case that there was no imminent threat to Rittenhouse's life when he fired his rifle.

        A lot about "what the hell were you doing there anyway?"

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

          The DA is making a case that there was no imminent threat to Rittenhouse's life when he fired his rifle.

          A lot about "what the hell were you doing there anyway?"

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          @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

          The DA is making a case that there was no imminent threat to Rittenhouse's life when he fired his rifle.

          A lot about "what the hell were you doing there anyway?"

          The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

            The DA is making a case that there was no imminent threat to Rittenhouse's life when he fired his rifle.

            A lot about "what the hell were you doing there anyway?"

            The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

            George KG Offline
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            @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

            I believe so.

            But, according to the DA, that was not an imminent threat.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

              I believe so.

              But, according to the DA, that was not an imminent threat.

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              @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

              I believe so.

              But, according to the DA, that was not an imminent threat.

              It was also the guy that twice threatened to kill him?

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #44

                I called it!

                https://babylonbee.com/news/new-game-call-of-duty-rittenhouse-lets-you-defend-your-home-from-a-horde-of-bloodthirsty-communists

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I called it!

                  https://babylonbee.com/news/new-game-call-of-duty-rittenhouse-lets-you-defend-your-home-from-a-horde-of-bloodthirsty-communists

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                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  I called it!

                  https://babylonbee.com/news/new-game-call-of-duty-rittenhouse-lets-you-defend-your-home-from-a-horde-of-bloodthirsty-communists

                  This is why I love this forum. Your comment would get you banned on FB or Twitter.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                    The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

                    I believe so.

                    But, according to the DA, that was not an imminent threat.

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                    @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                    @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                    The first shooting was the guy that grabbed his rifle, no?

                    I believe so.

                    But, according to the DA, that was not an imminent threat.

                    DA doesn't stand for Dumb Ass, does it?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG George K

                      @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                      It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

                      The DA is making a case that there was no imminent threat to Rittenhouse's life when he fired his rifle.

                      A lot about "what the hell were you doing there anyway?"

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                      @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                      It would shock me if he was convicted of anything but the misdemeanor.

                      The DA is making a case that there was no imminent threat to Rittenhouse's life when he fired his rifle.

                      A lot about "what the hell were you doing there anyway?"

                      That would apply to the first degree murder charge, since the DA must prove intent.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #48

                        One of the things that the DA tried to introduce into evidence was a photo of Rittenhouse at a bar in Wisconsin, with his friends.

                        He was wearing a sweatshirt that said, "Free as Fuck!"

                        Judge denied it, saying that what Rittenhouse did FOUR MONTHS AFTER the incident is irrelevant.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          The prosecutor should just enter into evidence that the defendant is a white conservative male, and be done with it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            There seems to be some thought that the prosecution is purposefully shooting for a mistrial?

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              There seems to be some thought that the prosecution is purposefully shooting for a mistrial?

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                              @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              There seems to be some thought that the prosecution is purposefully shooting for a mistrial?

                              There is no way that's not happening.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                The exception still applies. Transporting across state lines is a problem. Justice could charge him under Federal law, but if they do this after an acquittal, it would certainly have political fallout.

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                                @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                The exception still applies. Transporting across state lines is a problem. Justice could charge him under Federal law, but if they do this after an acquittal, it would certainly have political fallout.

                                Of course they should prosecute him on the transport charge, and his mother too for driving him, if the law allows it. That crime ultimately resulted in two deaths. If you didn’t charge it in this case, when would you?

                                (Assuming they can show the gun was transported from IL, last I recall that was in question but I haven’t followed this at all or read anything about it since last year)

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  The exception still applies. Transporting across state lines is a problem. Justice could charge him under Federal law, but if they do this after an acquittal, it would certainly have political fallout.

                                  Of course they should prosecute him on the transport charge, and his mother too for driving him, if the law allows it. That crime ultimately resulted in two deaths. If you didn’t charge it in this case, when would you?

                                  (Assuming they can show the gun was transported from IL, last I recall that was in question but I haven’t followed this at all or read anything about it since last year)

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  Of course they should prosecute him on the transport charge

                                  https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-video-assault-rifle-antioch-police/6406156/

                                  His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

                                  Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

                                  Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    But...

                                    https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/how-did-kyle-rittenhouse-have-gun/

                                    A 17-year-old can’t legally own a firearm in Wisconsin except for hunting purposes and with the permission of a legal guardian, according to the Giffords Law Center. In Illinois, where Rittenhouse lives, people under 21 can only own a gun legally if a parent or guardian who meets the eligibility criteria to own a gun signs off on their child owning a gun.

                                    Lin Wood!

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                                    open carry is legal in Wisconsin, but not for minors.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      Of course they should prosecute him on the transport charge

                                      https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-video-assault-rifle-antioch-police/6406156/

                                      His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

                                      Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

                                      Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

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                                      @george-k you could have quoted the second half of my post George. I haven’t followed this, I assumed Jolly had and he mentioned transport.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The FBI withheld exculpatory evidence - The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @jolly said in The FBI withheld exculpatory evidence:

                                        Kid's a dumbass, but he should walk. It's clearly self-defense.

                                        Yes on all three counts

                                        You and @Jolly forgot to mention that he was pretty damn solid, too. Debate all you want about whether he should have been there, but when the shit went down? Solid. I mean, there should be recruiters from the SEALS and Rangers waiting to talk to this kid in hallway.

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                                        @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        You and @Jolly forgot to mention that he was pretty damn solid, too. Debate all you want about whether he should have been there, but when the shit went down? Solid. I mean, there should be recruiters from the SEALS and Rangers waiting to talk to this kid in hallway.

                                        I would think they care about judgement, too. I’m sure some big city swat team would hire him.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Wisconsin state law allows a minor (I think 16 or 17) to be in possession of a rifle. Lots of deer hunters up there. He wasn't trying to conceal the rifle and Wisconsin is Open Carry. Unless there is a city ordinance, he might have a legal weapon ..🤔

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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