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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @copper said in The Great Songwriters:

    @george-k said in The Great Songwriters:

    I'm asking what songwriters' songs have endured.

    Stephen Foster
    George M. Cohan
    Irving Berlin
    Cole Porter
    Henry Mancini
    Richard Rogers
    Jerome Kern

    endured

    Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin

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    @doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:

    Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin

    Yes, and Berlin.

    But my original question was about the 2nd half of the 20th century. Going back to the end of the 20th century, how many songs, and by that I mean "covers," have endured since 1999?

    Who's singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" now?

    Is it the prevalence of online streaming that restrict the "covers"? I love hearing other artists do songs not originally recorded by them.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:

      Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin

      Yes, and Berlin.

      But my original question was about the 2nd half of the 20th century. Going back to the end of the 20th century, how many songs, and by that I mean "covers," have endured since 1999?

      Who's singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" now?

      Is it the prevalence of online streaming that restrict the "covers"? I love hearing other artists do songs not originally recorded by them.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      @george-k said in The Great Songwriters:

      @doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:

      Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin

      Yes, and Berlin.

      But my original question was about the 2nd half of the 20th century. Going back to the end of the 20th century, how many songs, and by that I mean "covers," have endured since 1999?

      Who's singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" now?

      Is it the prevalence of online streaming that restrict the "covers"? I love hearing other artists do songs not originally recorded by them.

      It could also have something to do with money-grubbing. Why pay somebody else for writing the song when you can cobble together some inane chant and get all the royalties for yourself? Particularly when the audience seem to perform inane chants to well-crafted classics.

      I was only joking

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        #25

        Tom T. Hall
        Otis Blackwell
        Felice and Boudleaux Bryant
        Merle Haggard
        Smokey Robinson

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • CopperC Offline
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          #26

          How did I forget John Philip Sousa?

          He should have been on my list.

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            I think that both @George-K and @Doctor-Phibes are correct.

            From what I have read before, the Beatles were kind of the first group to write all their own songs. Before, there were songwriters to do it.

            Now, most people and groups think it is a "badge" to write their own songs.

            The best songwriters may not be good singers and good singers may not be good songwriters.

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              The Beatles did not write all of their songs.

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              • markM mark

                The Beatles did not write all of their songs.

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                Larry
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                #29

                @mark said in The Great Songwriters:

                The Beatles did not write all of their songs.

                Nor do most artists today write their own songs.

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                  #30

                  One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:

                    One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.

                    Thus proving the Beatles did not write all of their songs.

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                      But they made up for it in the other direction

                      According to Guinness World Records, “Yesterday” has the most cover versions of any song ever written. The song remains popular today with more than 1,600 recorded cover versions.

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                        (Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.

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                          @doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:

                          One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.

                          Sauce? You have internet sauce?

                          Well, no wonder so much of the stuff I see online gets boring. It needs the sauce!

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                          • George KG George K

                            (Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)

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                            @george-k said in The Great Songwriters:

                            (Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)

                            In general, it's fair to say that the output, training and knowledge of classical composers puts the current generation of characters to shame.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @george-k said in The Great Songwriters:

                              (Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)

                              In general, it's fair to say that the output, training and knowledge of classical composers puts the current generation of characters to shame.

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                              @doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:

                              @george-k said in The Great Songwriters:

                              (Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)

                              In general, it's fair to say that the output, training and knowledge of classical composers puts the current generation of characters to shame.

                              If you're talking about today's pop music, I agree.

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