The Great Songwriters
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@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
Look at the music of the decades before that, the "Big Band" era. So many versions of so many songs; I suppose Sinatra was more influential than others in that way.
Well, Sinatra didn't write any of it.
The golden era of American songwriting was that of Gershwin, Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, Irving Berlin etc
@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
Jerome Kern
I developed quite a liking to Big Band swing and in particular Artie Shaw. Jerome Kern’s All the Things You Are was a big hit for Artie Shaw’s band in 1939. For me it has become an unrelenting ear worm that follows me around day and night, night and day.
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There's a certain irony to what happened to music in the 40's and 50's. The hard jazz guys basically thought that big band swing was too simplistic and moved to a more complex but less accessible music, whereas pop music went in completely the opposite direction and essentially went back to straightforward 12 bar blues, even it was mostly sung by young white kids.
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@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
I'm asking what songwriters' songs have endured.
Stephen Foster
George M. Cohan
Irving Berlin
Cole Porter
Henry Mancini
Richard Rogers
Jerome Kernendured
@copper said in The Great Songwriters:
@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
I'm asking what songwriters' songs have endured.
Stephen Foster
George M. Cohan
Irving Berlin
Cole Porter
Henry Mancini
Richard Rogers
Jerome Kernendured
Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin
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@copper said in The Great Songwriters:
@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
I'm asking what songwriters' songs have endured.
Stephen Foster
George M. Cohan
Irving Berlin
Cole Porter
Henry Mancini
Richard Rogers
Jerome Kernendured
Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin
@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin
Yes, and Berlin.
But my original question was about the 2nd half of the 20th century. Going back to the end of the 20th century, how many songs, and by that I mean "covers," have endured since 1999?
Who's singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" now?
Is it the prevalence of online streaming that restrict the "covers"? I love hearing other artists do songs not originally recorded by them.
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@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin
Yes, and Berlin.
But my original question was about the 2nd half of the 20th century. Going back to the end of the 20th century, how many songs, and by that I mean "covers," have endured since 1999?
Who's singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" now?
Is it the prevalence of online streaming that restrict the "covers"? I love hearing other artists do songs not originally recorded by them.
@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
Arguably above all, George and Ira Gershwin
Yes, and Berlin.
But my original question was about the 2nd half of the 20th century. Going back to the end of the 20th century, how many songs, and by that I mean "covers," have endured since 1999?
Who's singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" now?
Is it the prevalence of online streaming that restrict the "covers"? I love hearing other artists do songs not originally recorded by them.
It could also have something to do with money-grubbing. Why pay somebody else for writing the song when you can cobble together some inane chant and get all the royalties for yourself? Particularly when the audience seem to perform inane chants to well-crafted classics.
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I think that both @George-K and @Doctor-Phibes are correct.
From what I have read before, the Beatles were kind of the first group to write all their own songs. Before, there were songwriters to do it.
Now, most people and groups think it is a "badge" to write their own songs.
The best songwriters may not be good singers and good singers may not be good songwriters.
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One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.
I was only joking
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One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.
@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.
Thus proving the Beatles did not write all of their songs.
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(Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.
@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
One or more of the Beatles wrote all but 25 of them, according to my secret internet sauce.
Sauce? You have internet sauce?
Well, no wonder so much of the stuff I see online gets boring. It needs the sauce!
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@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
(Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)
In general, it's fair to say that the output, training and knowledge of classical composers puts the current generation of characters to shame.
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@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
(Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)
In general, it's fair to say that the output, training and knowledge of classical composers puts the current generation of characters to shame.
@doctor-phibes said in The Great Songwriters:
@george-k said in The Great Songwriters:
(Schubert wrote more than 600 songs and he was dead before he reached age 32)
In general, it's fair to say that the output, training and knowledge of classical composers puts the current generation of characters to shame.
If you're talking about today's pop music, I agree.
