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Alec Baldwin what the fuck

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  • ImprovisoI Improviso

    If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.

    And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.

    Just sayin'...

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    @improviso said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

    If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.

    And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.

    Just sayin'...

    +1

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      #84

      Dribs and drabs of information (accurate?) but one of the things that has surfaced is that some of people were allegedly doing some target shooting while they were out in the middle of nowhere. If true, that would explain why a gun with life ammo might have been present. If that is the case, these folks have not learned my family's motto of "when doing something stupid, be smart about it" - which is to say that if you're stupid enough to have a weapon with live ammo on a movie set, then remove ammo, and lock both weapon and ammo up - and if possible, put the locked box in the trunk of one's car.

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        #85

        I heard Alec Baldwin is going to be in a new sitcom called 30 Cal.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • George KG Offline
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          https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rust-movie-turned-down-prop-master-massive-red-flags

          Neal W. Zoromski, who has worked on shows like "Grace and Frankie," "Scandal" and "Criminal Minds," as well as films like "The Day After Tomorrow," told the Los Angeles Times that he was excited to begin work on "Rust," a western-genre film starring Alec Baldwin.

          These days, the film is famous for an accidental on-set shooting that occurred when Baldwin, who was rehearsing a scene, discharged a firearm he was told contained no ammunition. The projectile struck cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, ultimately killing her, and director Joel Souza, who has since been released from the hospital.

          Once Zoromski started informally working with film managers, he said he got a "bad feeling."

          "There were massive red flags," he admitted.

          Zoromski said he felt that "Rust" was being put together too hurriedly, allegedly with a massive focus being put on saving money over the safety of those involved. Furthermore, production managers seemed to brush off his questions and didn't seem to value experience, he further claimed.

          Such "red flags" led to Zoromski telling production managers that he'd take a pass on working on "Rust."

          "After I pressed 'send' on that last email, I felt, in the pit of my stomach: 'That is an accident waiting to happen,'" he recalled.

          Now, in the days following the incident, Zoromski feels that had he accepted the job, perhaps things would have played out differently.

          "I take my job incredibly seriously," he told the outlet. "As the prop master, you have to be concerned about safety. I'm the guy who hands the guns to the people on set."

          The prop master expanded on his reasons for turning away from the production, explaining that he felt production managers were being "evasive" when he asked about the terms of his employment.

          The budget for "Rust" is estimated to be at about $7 million, which Zoromski felt was too small for the type of film producers were trying to make, and he couldn't seem to get an answer on the budget for his "kit" – and industry term for his collection of props for the production.

          Additionally, he was alarmed by the fact that production manager Row Walters contacted him only two weeks before "Rust" was set to begin filming, Zoromski alleged.

          He received word about the potential job at 9 p.m. on Sept. 20, while filming began on Oct. 6. Hiring a prop master is often done much farther in advance.

          "In the movies, the prep is everything," he said. "...You also need time to clean, inspect and repair guns. You need time to fix old clocks. In period films, you are sometimes using antiques. But here, there was absolutely no time to prepare, and that gave me a bad feeling."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            #87

            Apparently the gun was a Colt 45. No wonder she died, went thru her and hit the assistant director.. Serious weapon...leaves a serious hole.

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            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/rookie-rust-armorer-made-nicolas-cage-storm-off-previous-set-after-firing-gun/

              A furious Nicolas Cage stormed off the set of a film where Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was in charge of weapons — and ripped the rookie armorer for firing a gun without warning, crew members said in a new report.

              The 24-year-old “Rust” armorer — in charge of guns when Alec Baldwin shot dead cinematographer Halyna Hutchins last Thursday — was repeatedly accused by crew members of breaking basic safety protocols on the Montana set of Cage’s “The Old Way” in August, they told the Wrap.

              Cage even walked off set screaming at Gutierrez-Reed after she fired a gun without warning for the second time in three days, the movie’s key grip, Stu Brumbaugh, told the outlet.

              “Make an announcement, you just blew my f—ing eardrums out!” Cage yelled before walking off in a rage, Brumbaugh recalled.

              Brumbaugh even told the assistant director of the armorer, “She needs to be let go,” he recalled.

              “After the second round, I was pissed off. We were moving too fast. She’s a rookie,” he said, saying that it was only after complaining that he found out it was the key crew member’s first movie in charge of weapons.

              Brumbaugh detailed a series of complaints that were made about Gutierrez-Reed, including that she walked onto the set with live rounds or blanks without announcing it to the cast and crew.

              She also walked around with pistols tucked under her armpits such that they were pointing back at people, and allowed firearms to be aimed at people, Brumbaugh told the Wrap.

              Another crew member — who spoke on the condition of anonymity — confirmed the concerns.

              Gutierrez-Reed “put the cast and crew in several unnecessary and dangerous situations,” the unidentified crew member told the Wrap.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                I don't like how this is turning into a witch hunt when clearly the whole set was rife with safety problems.

                Please love yourself.

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                  I hereby nominate this thread as having TTToTY.

                  The Thread Title of The Year

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      I don't like how this is turning into a witch hunt when clearly the whole set was rife with safety problems.

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                      @aqua-letifer said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                      I don't like how this is turning into a witch hunt when clearly the whole set was rife with safety problems.

                      Worse than that, I predict a star studded Hollywood movie or TV mini series coming out of this circle jerk.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @aqua-letifer said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                        I don't like how this is turning into a witch hunt when clearly the whole set was rife with safety problems.

                        Worse than that, I predict a star studded Hollywood movie or TV mini series coming out of this circle jerk.

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                        @renauda said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                        Worse than that, I predict a star studded Hollywood movie or TV mini series coming out of this circle jerk.

                        🤤

                        Do you think it'll be on the Hallmark Channel?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @renauda said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                          Worse than that, I predict a star studded Hollywood movie or TV mini series coming out of this circle jerk.

                          🤤

                          Do you think it'll be on the Hallmark Channel?

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                          @george-k

                          That or the History Channel.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            #95

                            Maybe Donald Trump Jnr could play Alec Baldwin

                            I was only joking

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                              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                https://nypost.com/2021/10/29/rust-armorer-blames-deadly-accident-on-cost-cutting-bosses/

                                ‘Rust’ armorer has ‘no idea’ where live rounds came from and blames deadly accident on cost-cutting bosses

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                                The rookie armorer in charge of weapons when Alec Baldwin accidentally shot dead his cinematographer has insisted she has “no idea” where the live ammunition came from — and is blaming the tragedy on her cost-cutting bosses.

                                Lawyers for Hannah Gutierrez-Reed told NBC late Thursday that the 24-year-old former model “is devastated and completely beside herself over the events that have transpired” on the set of Baldwin’s “Rust.”

                                “Safety is Hannah’s number one priority on set. Ultimately this set would never have been compromised if live ammo were not introduced,” her attorneys, Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence, said in a statement.

                                And this:

                                “Hannah has no idea where the live rounds came from,” the attorneys insisted, saying all the guns had been locked up each night.

                                Um, you had one job.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  It doesn't matter if one of the crew was juggling live rounds during filming breaks.

                                  It's her job to make sure those guns are safe and ready to go.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jesus H.

                                        The production of the Alec Baldwin movie "Rust" reportedly saw multiple accidental discharges take place on the set prior to the one that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead.

                                        All eyes have been on the set’s armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, who had only worked as the armorer on one film prior to leading things on "Rust." As she becomes one of the main focuses of the investigation into the death of Hutchins, a new report from the Los Angeles Times indicates that crew members were concerned about her work and that other accidental discharges had happened prior.

                                        The outlet reports that a total of three incidents involving guns being fired accidentally happened prior to the incident involving Baldwin on Oct. 21. One involved Baldwin’s stunt double firing a blank round after he was told the gun he was holding was "cold," an industry term meaning that there were no projectiles in the firearm. This is similar to what assistant director Dave Halls told Baldwin on the day of the shooting, not realizing that a live round was in the gun he handed the actor before declaring it "cold."

                                        The outlet reports another shooting involved a woman in the props department. She was handling a gun and accidentally shot herself in the foot with a blank round, according to Lane Luper, the A-camera first assistant on "Rust."

                                        Because the round was blank, it’s unclear if any serious injury resulted from the accidental discharge.

                                        These reports back up what Gutierrez Reed’s attorneys previously told Fox News in a statement about her involvement with the accidental death and the conditions on the "Rust" set. New Mexico-based lawyers Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence noted that "safety is Hannah’s number one priority."

                                        They also explained that she has never had an accidental discharge herself, but they admitted that at least two had taken place on the set.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          #102

                                          Blank round into a shoe or boot?

                                          Probably a good bruise.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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