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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 00:27 last edited by
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    Are the people still in jail for the Jan 6 riot not having money for bail or they are denied bail?

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      Jolly
      wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 00:46 last edited by
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      Denied.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        11 Oct 2021, 00:46

        Denied.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 01:00 last edited by
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        @jolly said in Out on bail:

        Denied.

        Interesting. There must be reasons behind the judge(?) decision.

        I do not know enough about the bond system to really know how it is decided.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 14:41 last edited by Doctor Phibes 10 Nov 2021, 14:42
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          More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

          Maybe what's happened to the Capitol riot douchebags will wake conservatives up a bit?

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            11 Oct 2021, 14:41

            More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

            Maybe what's happened to the Capitol riot douchebags will wake conservatives up a bit?

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            George K
            wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 15:47 last edited by
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            @doctor-phibes said in Out on bail:

            More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

            That's true. But nonviolent ≠ misdemeanor. Selling tons of cocaine/fentanyl is a nonviolent crime. Bernie Madoff committed no violent crime.

            Maybe what's happened to the Capitol riot douchebags will wake conservatives up a bit?

            Several of the riot douchebags have been charged with, and pled guilty to various felonies. That's good.

            Why are the accused (not convicted) nonviolent people still in jail, 9 months later?

            And, since you bring up violence, this douchebag who shot 4 people in a school is out on bail.

            This is Alice-in-WOnderland stuff.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              11 Oct 2021, 15:47

              @doctor-phibes said in Out on bail:

              More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

              That's true. But nonviolent ≠ misdemeanor. Selling tons of cocaine/fentanyl is a nonviolent crime. Bernie Madoff committed no violent crime.

              Maybe what's happened to the Capitol riot douchebags will wake conservatives up a bit?

              Several of the riot douchebags have been charged with, and pled guilty to various felonies. That's good.

              Why are the accused (not convicted) nonviolent people still in jail, 9 months later?

              And, since you bring up violence, this douchebag who shot 4 people in a school is out on bail.

              This is Alice-in-WOnderland stuff.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 16:11 last edited by
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              @george-k said in Out on bail:

              @doctor-phibes said in Out on bail:

              More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

              That's true. But nonviolent ≠ misdemeanor. Selling tons of cocaine/fentanyl is a nonviolent crime. Bernie Madoff committed no violent crime.

              Yeah, fair point. I also think that one of the main reasons for the long sentences is the 'three strikes' rule.

              I do think that the US prison system needs urgent reform. I know people hate comparisons, but the number of Americans in prison is significantly higher than in other comparable countries

              I was only joking

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                Horace
                wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 16:13 last edited by
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                I'd like a better understanding of what each of those jailed people actually did on January 6. Is it true that a person who was in the demonstration on Jan 6, saw a bunch of his or her fellow demonstrators walking through an open Capitol door, followed them in, and did some unsupervised sight seeing, is still in jail to this day? Or are there aggravating factors for the people in jail?

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 16:15 last edited by
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                  Eventually they will renounce Mr. Trump and be released.

                  No big deal.

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                    11 Oct 2021, 16:13

                    I'd like a better understanding of what each of those jailed people actually did on January 6. Is it true that a person who was in the demonstration on Jan 6, saw a bunch of his or her fellow demonstrators walking through an open Capitol door, followed them in, and did some unsupervised sight seeing, is still in jail to this day? Or are there aggravating factors for the people in jail?

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 18:36 last edited by
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                    @horace said in Out on bail:

                    I'd like a better understanding of what each of those jailed people actually did on January 6. Is it true that a person who was in the demonstration on Jan 6, saw a bunch of his or her fellow demonstrators walking through an open Capitol door, followed them in, and did some unsupervised sight seeing, is still in jail to this day? Or are there aggravating factors for the people in jail?

                    I don't think most people are really interested in this level of detail. One side is too busy shouting 'attempted coup', whilst the other yells 'Fascist state holding people without trial'.

                    I was only joking

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                      11 Oct 2021, 14:41

                      More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

                      Maybe what's happened to the Capitol riot douchebags will wake conservatives up a bit?

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 11 Oct 2021, 20:03 last edited by
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                      @doctor-phibes said in Out on bail:

                      More perspective. There are thousands of people in the US serving life sentences for non-violent crimes.

                      Maybe what's happened to the Capitol riot douchebags will wake conservatives up a bit?

                      How about this: let's figure out how to wake the left up and then hopefully we wont have uninformed people susceptible to propaganda running around referring to Jan 6 as a riot by a bunch of "douchebags". If we can figure that out, maybe they'll start to question why they believed it when rioters who were looting, burning, and killing were referred to as "mostly peaceful protesters" and they sat there silently yet never miss the opportunity to ake disparaging remarks like "douchebags" when referring to a group of people who never actually rioted.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 12:10 last edited by
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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