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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    President Unity:

    President Biden slammed Republicans Monday for refusing to help raise the debt ceiling, and he asked them to step aside if they're not willing to vote with Democrats to stop the nation from going into default.

    "Republicans just have to let us do our job. Just get out of the way," he said at the White House. "If you don't want to help save the country, get out of the way, so you don't destroy it."

    The president said Democrats are willing to raise the debt ceiling alone this week but Republicans are stopping them, having blocked two attempts to suspend the debt limit in just the last week. Last Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer asked the Senate to agree to allow a simple majority to vote to raise the debt limit, but Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell objected, thereby blocking the vote from taking place.

    In a letter to Mr. Biden on Monday, McConnell reiterated Republicans would not help raise the debt limit, and Democrats would have to do it on their own, a stance Republicans have taken since mid-July.

    "The debt limit is often a partisan vote during times of unified government. In 2003, 2004, and 2006, Mr. President, you joined Senate Democrats in opposing debt limit increases and made Republicans do it ourselves," the letter read. "You explained on the Senate floor that your 'no' votes did not mean you wanted the majority to let the country default, but rather that the President's party had to take responsibility for a policy agenda which you opposed. Your view then is our view now."

    Mr. Biden on Monday addressed his past votes, saying it was a straight up and down vote and the Senate was not requiring 60 votes at the time or threatening a filibuster.

    The U.S. is rapidly closing in on its debt limit — which could happen in about two weeks — risking default for the first time in U.S. history and economic catastrophe.

    "Raising the debt limit comes down to paying what we already owe, what has already been acquired, not anything new," Mr. Biden said. "It starts with a simple truth. The United States is a nation that pays its bills and always has from its inception."

    The president accused GOP senators of obstruction, calling their efforts "hypocritical, dangerous and disgraceful." He said the easiest way to address the debt limit quickly would be to vote on a clean measure this week, but Republicans have threaten to filibuster — forcing Democrats to find 60 votes in the Senate, which they do not have, since the Senate is evenly divided, 50-50.

    I don't even pretend to understand the intricacies of the debt ceiling and all of that.

    However, "get out of the way" is not rhetoric that will convince people.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      President Unity:

      President Biden slammed Republicans Monday for refusing to help raise the debt ceiling, and he asked them to step aside if they're not willing to vote with Democrats to stop the nation from going into default.

      "Republicans just have to let us do our job. Just get out of the way," he said at the White House. "If you don't want to help save the country, get out of the way, so you don't destroy it."

      The president said Democrats are willing to raise the debt ceiling alone this week but Republicans are stopping them, having blocked two attempts to suspend the debt limit in just the last week. Last Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer asked the Senate to agree to allow a simple majority to vote to raise the debt limit, but Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell objected, thereby blocking the vote from taking place.

      In a letter to Mr. Biden on Monday, McConnell reiterated Republicans would not help raise the debt limit, and Democrats would have to do it on their own, a stance Republicans have taken since mid-July.

      "The debt limit is often a partisan vote during times of unified government. In 2003, 2004, and 2006, Mr. President, you joined Senate Democrats in opposing debt limit increases and made Republicans do it ourselves," the letter read. "You explained on the Senate floor that your 'no' votes did not mean you wanted the majority to let the country default, but rather that the President's party had to take responsibility for a policy agenda which you opposed. Your view then is our view now."

      Mr. Biden on Monday addressed his past votes, saying it was a straight up and down vote and the Senate was not requiring 60 votes at the time or threatening a filibuster.

      The U.S. is rapidly closing in on its debt limit — which could happen in about two weeks — risking default for the first time in U.S. history and economic catastrophe.

      "Raising the debt limit comes down to paying what we already owe, what has already been acquired, not anything new," Mr. Biden said. "It starts with a simple truth. The United States is a nation that pays its bills and always has from its inception."

      The president accused GOP senators of obstruction, calling their efforts "hypocritical, dangerous and disgraceful." He said the easiest way to address the debt limit quickly would be to vote on a clean measure this week, but Republicans have threaten to filibuster — forcing Democrats to find 60 votes in the Senate, which they do not have, since the Senate is evenly divided, 50-50.

      I don't even pretend to understand the intricacies of the debt ceiling and all of that.

      However, "get out of the way" is not rhetoric that will convince people.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      @george-k said in "Get out of the way":

      However, "get out of the way" is not rhetoric that will convince people.

      We're waaaaaay past that, Jerry.

      Please love yourself.

      George KG 1 Reply Last reply
      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @george-k said in "Get out of the way":

        However, "get out of the way" is not rhetoric that will convince people.

        We're waaaaaay past that, Jerry.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        @aqua-letifer said in "Get out of the way":

        We're waaaaaay past that, Jerry.

        I thought we had returned to the old civility?

        My bad....

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

        Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
        • George KG George K

          @aqua-letifer said in "Get out of the way":

          We're waaaaaay past that, Jerry.

          I thought we had returned to the old civility?

          My bad....

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          @george-k said in "Get out of the way":

          @aqua-letifer said in "Get out of the way":

          We're waaaaaay past that, Jerry.

          I thought we had returned to the old civility?

          My bad....

          Twitter pretty much put an end to that.

          Please love yourself.

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @george-k said in "Get out of the way":

            @aqua-letifer said in "Get out of the way":

            We're waaaaaay past that, Jerry.

            I thought we had returned to the old civility?

            My bad....

            Twitter pretty much put an end to that.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @aqua-letifer said in "Get out of the way":

            Twitter pretty much put an end to that.

            Remember the outrage over "Either you're with us, or you're against us"?

            Good times, good times!

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              One of the greatest lies leftists ever convinced themselves of is that they were forced into marginalizing Trump supporters, because Trump was so divisive.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Axtremus
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                I hear the thundering silence from Sen. Joe Manchin about "bipartisanship" and "finding 10 good Republicans" to deal with the debt ceiling using regular order.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  I hear the thundering silence from Sen. Joe Manchin about "bipartisanship" and "finding 10 good Republicans" to deal with the debt ceiling using regular order.

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                  @axtremus said in "Get out of the way":

                  I hear the thundering silence from Sen. Joe Manchin about "bipartisanship" and "finding 10 good Republicans" to deal with the dead ceiling using regular order.

                  Tell us some more about the dead ceiling. Surely they aren't going to arkancide Manchin...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    xenon
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                    Not raising the debt ceiling wasn't a good idea during the Trump administration and it isn't a good idea now.

                    It's silly that we split the decision to charge money on our credit card and pay the credit card bill.

                    Any responsible adult knows that the decision to do one implies the decision to do the other.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      One of the greatest lies leftists ever convinced themselves of is that they were forced into marginalizing Trump supporters, because Trump was so divisive.

                      jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      @horace said in "Get out of the way":

                      One of the greatest lies leftists ever convinced themselves of is that they were forced into marginalizing Trump supporters, because Trump was so divisive.

                      Marginalizing Trump supporters is a choice, forced upon us by propriety, patriotism, and good taste.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        Sen. McConnell and the Senate GOP "got out of the way" just enough for the Senate Democrats to kick the can down the calendar for another two months. Enjoy the intermission. The show will resume in December.

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/06/republicans-filibuster-debt-limit-515355

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