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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #26

    How can any rational person use Infowars to support an argument? The owner of the website's legal defence was 'this stuff is so ridiculous that no reasonable person would believe what he says'?

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      How can any rational person use Infowars to support an argument? The owner of the website's legal defence was 'this stuff is so ridiculous that no reasonable person would believe what he says'?

      Catseye3C Offline
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      Catseye3
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      #27

      @doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:

      How can any rational person use Infowars to support an argument?

      You took the words right out of my keyboard, Phibes.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        How can any rational person use Infowars to support an argument? The owner of the website's legal defence was 'this stuff is so ridiculous that no reasonable person would believe what he says'?

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #28

        @doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:

        How can any rational person use Infowars to support an argument? The owner of the website's legal defence was 'this stuff is so ridiculous that no reasonable person would believe what he says'?

        I can almost, almost, understand the concept that the vaccine is driving mutations, but that argument is no reason to not vaccinate.

        Because polio.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #29

          I particularly like how they implied by omission that the good doctor was a part of the advisory committee.

          Also, the committee didn’t come out against the shots, they hoist aren’t supporting boosters for the general public yet.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            I particularly like how they implied by omission that the good doctor was a part of the advisory committee.

            Also, the committee didn’t come out against the shots, they hoist aren’t supporting boosters for the general public yet.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #30

            Didn't I comment, a few days ago, that it's been I've heard anything?

            Well, today:

            https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2021/09/spartacus/

            Summary:

            • COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.

            • Current treatment protocols (e.g. invasive ventilation) are actively harmful to patients, accelerating oxidative stress and causing severe VILI (ventilator-induced lung injuries). The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder.

            • Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne virus, and constitute a form of medical theater.

            • Various non-vaccine interventions have been suppressed by both the media and the medical establishment in favor of vaccines and expensive patented drugs.

            • The authorities have denied the usefulness of natural immunity against COVID-19, despite the fact that natural immunity confers protection against all of the virus’s proteins, and not just one.

            • Vaccines will do more harm than good. The antigen that these vaccines are based on, SARS-CoV- 2 Spike, is a toxic protein. SARS-CoV-2 may have ADE, or antibody-dependent enhancement; current antibodies may not neutralize future strains, but instead help them infect immune cells. Also, vaccinating during a pandemic with a leaky vaccine removes the evolutionary pressure for a virus to become less lethal.
            

            • There is a vast and appalling criminal conspiracy that directly links both Anthony Fauci and Moderna to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
• COVID-19 vaccine researchers are directly linked to scientists involved in brain-computer interface (“neural lace”) tech, one of whom was indicted for taking grant money from China.

            • Independent researchers have discovered mysterious nanoparticles inside the vaccines that are not supposed to be present.

            • The entire pandemic is being used as an excuse for a vast political and economic transformation of Western society that will enrich the already rich and turn the rest of us into serfs and untouchables.

            =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

            THere's a lot more, and I mean a LOT more, at the link.

            Have fun.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            George KG 1 Reply Last reply
            • George KG George K

              Didn't I comment, a few days ago, that it's been I've heard anything?

              Well, today:

              https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2021/09/spartacus/

              Summary:

              • COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.

              • Current treatment protocols (e.g. invasive ventilation) are actively harmful to patients, accelerating oxidative stress and causing severe VILI (ventilator-induced lung injuries). The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder.

              • Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne virus, and constitute a form of medical theater.

              • Various non-vaccine interventions have been suppressed by both the media and the medical establishment in favor of vaccines and expensive patented drugs.

              • The authorities have denied the usefulness of natural immunity against COVID-19, despite the fact that natural immunity confers protection against all of the virus’s proteins, and not just one.

              • Vaccines will do more harm than good. The antigen that these vaccines are based on, SARS-CoV- 2 Spike, is a toxic protein. SARS-CoV-2 may have ADE, or antibody-dependent enhancement; current antibodies may not neutralize future strains, but instead help them infect immune cells. Also, vaccinating during a pandemic with a leaky vaccine removes the evolutionary pressure for a virus to become less lethal.
              

              • There is a vast and appalling criminal conspiracy that directly links both Anthony Fauci and Moderna to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
• COVID-19 vaccine researchers are directly linked to scientists involved in brain-computer interface (“neural lace”) tech, one of whom was indicted for taking grant money from China.

              • Independent researchers have discovered mysterious nanoparticles inside the vaccines that are not supposed to be present.

              • The entire pandemic is being used as an excuse for a vast political and economic transformation of Western society that will enrich the already rich and turn the rest of us into serfs and untouchables.

              =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

              THere's a lot more, and I mean a LOT more, at the link.

              Have fun.

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              George K
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              #31

              "Any one of these things would constitute a vicious rape of Western society. Taken together, they beggar belief; they are a complete inversion of our most treasured values.

              What is the purpose of all of this? One can only speculate as to the perpetrators’ motives, however, we have some theories.

              The Elites are trying to pull up the ladder, erase upward mobility for large segments of the population, cull political opponents and other “undesirables”, and put the remainder of humanity on a tight leash, rationing our access to certain goods and services that they have deemed “high-impact”, such as automobile use, tourism, meat consumption, and so on. Naturally, they will continue to have their own luxuries, as part of a strict caste system akin to feudalism.

              Why are they doing this? Simple. The Elites are Neo-Malthusians and believe that we are overpopulated and that resource depletion will collapse civilization in a matter of a few short decades. They are not necessarily incorrect in this belief. We are overpopulated, and we are consuming too many resources. However, orchestrating such a gruesome and murderous power grab in response to a looming crisis demonstrates that they have nothing but the utmost contempt for their fellow man.

              To those who are participating in this disgusting farce without any understanding of what they are doing, we have one word for you. Stop. You are causing irreparable harm to your country and to your fellow citizens.

              To those who may be reading this warning and have full knowledge and understanding of what they are doing and how it will unjustly harm millions of innocent people, we have a few more words.

              Damn you to hell. You will not destroy America and the Free World, and you will not have your New World Order. We will make certain of that."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #32

                By the way, if you're interested in other wacky shit that he's talked about, google "The Electric Universe."

                I remember the conversation we had about it, it was outside the locker rooms of the OR. I nodded, politely, and thought, "What the actual FUCK are you talking about???"

                Hey, I'll save you the click...

                https://www.electricuniverse.info

                https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #33

                  Posts moved from "Truth is out there" by @Jolly to "Truth is out there" by me.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #34

                    George I want to ask him where are all the ICUs filled with people dying from the vaccine?

                    We can show him the ICUs filled with Covid patients.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      George I want to ask him where are all the ICUs filled with people dying from the vaccine?

                      We can show him the ICUs filled with Covid patients.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #35

                      @jon-nyc said in The truth is out there:

                      We can show him the ICUs filled with unvaccinated Covid patients.

                      FIFY.

                      But...

                      Here's the sad thing about it all.

                      This guy and I have been friends since 1989. He was the first surgeon I met when I started in private practice. I was getting my locker stocked, and he came into the locker room and introduced himself: "Hey, I'm Joe Blow. Who are you?"

                      He's a real conservative/libertarian Trump supporter, and he and I agree on many things politically (though not necessarily when it comes to the personalities of politicians). Reading this stuff is disappointing and sad. It's not enough to make terminate a friendship - a real friendship should transcend politics, but it's enough to make me want to redirect any political conversation to a different area of discussion. A few weeks ago, he was driving home to the western 'burbs of Chicago, and he called me while in the car and wanted to discuss this shit. It was difficult to deflect.

                      I have many friends with whom I disagree on politics, etc., but when the conversation goes to this stuff...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        By the way, if you're interested in other wacky shit that he's talked about, google "The Electric Universe."

                        I remember the conversation we had about it, it was outside the locker rooms of the OR. I nodded, politely, and thought, "What the actual FUCK are you talking about???"

                        Hey, I'll save you the click...

                        https://www.electricuniverse.info

                        https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #36

                        @george-k said in The truth is out there:

                        By the way, if you're interested in other wacky shit that he's talked about, google "The Electric Universe."

                        I'm very familiar. My guitar guy is DEEP into that shit. I love hearing about it.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
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                          This is new to me. Reading about it reminded me of the
                          12 meridians of the body that are part of Traditional Medicine*. "In Traditional Medicine, meridians are channels that form a network in the body, through which qi (vital energy) flows. Meridian-based therapies are based on the concept that a disruption in the flow of qi/chi energy can result in compromising the immune system, making the body susceptible to many unwanted conditions and diseases. In other words, blocked qi causes pain or illness."

                          *What used to be called Chinese Traditional Medicine but is no longer, apparently considered racist. For some reason.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            This is new to me. Reading about it reminded me of the
                            12 meridians of the body that are part of Traditional Medicine*. "In Traditional Medicine, meridians are channels that form a network in the body, through which qi (vital energy) flows. Meridian-based therapies are based on the concept that a disruption in the flow of qi/chi energy can result in compromising the immune system, making the body susceptible to many unwanted conditions and diseases. In other words, blocked qi causes pain or illness."

                            *What used to be called Chinese Traditional Medicine but is no longer, apparently considered racist. For some reason.

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                            @catseye3 said in The truth is out there:

                            In Traditional Medicine, meridians are channels that form a network in the body, through which qi (vital energy) flows. Meridian-based therapies are based on the concept that a disruption in the flow of qi/chi energy can result in compromising the immune system, making the body susceptible to many unwanted conditions and diseases. In other words, blocked qi causes pain or illness.

                            That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense. A big part of chi is very practical body alignment stuff that does make you healthier.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @catseye3 said in The truth is out there:

                              In Traditional Medicine, meridians are channels that form a network in the body, through which qi (vital energy) flows. Meridian-based therapies are based on the concept that a disruption in the flow of qi/chi energy can result in compromising the immune system, making the body susceptible to many unwanted conditions and diseases. In other words, blocked qi causes pain or illness.

                              That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense. A big part of chi is very practical body alignment stuff that does make you healthier.

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                              @aqua-letifer said in The truth is out there:

                              That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense.

                              No, it's just a summary.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                @aqua-letifer said in The truth is out there:

                                That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense.

                                No, it's just a summary.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                @catseye3 said in The truth is out there:

                                @aqua-letifer said in The truth is out there:

                                That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense.

                                No, it's just a summary.

                                More like wintary, because it's trying so hard to sound cool. Or maybe springy, because it's about as mature as a spring powered children's toy. Or maybe falley, because so many people fall for it. But definitely not summary!!

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @catseye3 said in The truth is out there:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in The truth is out there:

                                  That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense.

                                  No, it's just a summary.

                                  More like wintary, because it's trying so hard to sound cool. Or maybe springy, because it's about as mature as a spring powered children's toy. Or maybe falley, because so many people fall for it. But definitely not summary!!

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @horace said in The truth is out there:

                                  @catseye3 said in The truth is out there:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in The truth is out there:

                                  That's a very limited representation and sounds like wooey nonsense.

                                  No, it's just a summary.

                                  More like wintary, because it's trying so hard to sound cool. Or maybe springy, because it's about as mature as a spring powered children's toy. Or maybe falley, because so many people fall for it. But definitely not summary!!

                                  Mammary?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    Perhaps if it keeps you abreast of it.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
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                                      #43

                                      Wow:

                                      "Only one patient, but it sure makes me wonder what the pharmaceutical companies and the government know and aren’t telling us."

                                      Link to video

                                      And wow:

                                      https://www.westernjournal.com/ghoulish-fact-checkers-twitter-slap-misleading-label-obituary-mom-died-vaccine-induced-blood-clot/

                                      =-=-=-=-=-=-

                                      Jessica Berg Wilson’s obituary described the Seattle woman as “an exceptionally healthy and vibrant 37-year-old young mother with no underlying health conditions” who “died unexpectedly on Sep. 7 from COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia (VITT).”

                                      The obituary on Legacy.com continued: “Jessica fully embraced motherhood, sharing her passion for life with her daughters. Jessica’s motherly commitment was intense, with unwavering determination to nurture her children to be confident, humble, responsible, and to have concern and compassion for others with high morals built on Faith.”

                                      “Jessica’s greatest passion was to be the best mother possible for Bridget and Clara. Nothing would stand in her way to be present in their lives,” it said. “During the last weeks of her life, however, the world turned dark with heavy-handed vaccine mandates. Local and state governments were determined to strip away her right to consult her wisdom and enjoy her freedom.

                                      “She had been vehemently opposed to taking the vaccine, knowing she was in good health and of a young age and thus not at risk for serious illness. In her mind, the known and unknown risks of the unproven vaccine were more of a threat.

                                      “But, slowly, day by day, her freedom to choose was stripped away. Her passion to be actively involved in her children’s education—which included being a Room Mom—was, once again, blocked by government mandate. Ultimately, those who closed doors and separated mothers from their children prevailed.

                                      Trending:

                                      After Deputy Stops to Help Her, 96-Year-Old Woman Demands to Speak with His Supervisor
                                      “It cost Jessica her life. It cost her children the loving embrace of their caring mother. And it cost her husband the sacred love of his devoted wife. It cost God’s Kingdom on earth a very special soul who was just making her love felt in the hearts of so many.”

                                      This very sad story was made even worse by the Twitter Police.

                                      When a Twitter user shared Wilson’s obituary on Friday, adding in the caption that she had not wanted to get vaccinated, the post was slapped with a warning label.

                                      “This Tweet is misleading,” it said. “Find out why health officials consider COVID-19 vaccines safe for most people.”

                                      It provided a link so users could “find out more,” adding, “This Tweet can’t be replied to, shared or liked.”

                                      Screen Shot 2021-10-04 at 5.55.58 PM.png

                                      This is what popped up if you clicked on the retweet button.

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                                      Misleading? On the contrary, it’s very clear. A healthy young woman, who believed that the vaccine posed a greater risk to her health than contracting the virus itself, was forced to comply with the school’s vaccine requirement for visitors if she wanted to be involved in her children’s classrooms.

                                      She took the vaccine and then died of a vaccine-induced blood clot. She was one of the unlucky ones.

                                      The author of the tweet was not misleading readers, either. She was simply mourning the loss of a young mother who would not have gotten the vaccine (and therefore likely would not have died) had she not been forced to.

                                      Nobody was trying to convince others not to take the vaccine or claiming that it will cause mass deaths.

                                      I am not anti-vax. Vaccines are a potent tool in the fight against COVID. That said, these vaccines do pose a risk to some individuals. Some might have medical reasons for rejecting the vaccine, and others are highly skeptical about taking a vaccine that was developed so quickly. Not everyone needs to be vaccinated.

                                      This is tyranny, and it’s hard to believe this is happening in America.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Some people will find anything to dispute anything that is logical. 99.9% of the people will understand, but there is always that small minority that will find a way to dispute it

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                                          George K
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                                          Yesterday, I got this:

                                          https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/who-database-reports-over-2-million-potential-covid-jab-injuries-in-2021-vast-majority-in-women/

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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