Paper Shortage
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wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 12:19 last edited by
Get ready.
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wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 12:30 last edited by
Toilet paper? Tissue paper?
Paper towels and paper napkins?
Paper plates and cups?
Printing paper? (PDF is good alternative.)
Paper bags?
Paper hardboard boxes? Paper packing material? -
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 12:34 last edited by
Yep.
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wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 14:05 last edited by
Mas informacion, por favor
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wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 14:18 last edited by
I bought a bidet. I feel invincible.
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wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 14:35 last edited by
What do you mean “get ready”? It’s already here.
By the way, Woodpulp is 50% more expensive than last year at this time. Those Christmas Cards are going to be expensive…
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What do you mean “get ready”? It’s already here.
By the way, Woodpulp is 50% more expensive than last year at this time. Those Christmas Cards are going to be expensive…
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 15:03 last edited by@lufins-dad that’s interesting, wood itself has crashed back to its normal price.
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What do you mean “get ready”? It’s already here.
By the way, Woodpulp is 50% more expensive than last year at this time. Those Christmas Cards are going to be expensive…
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 20:04 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Paper Shortage:
What do you mean “get ready”? It’s already here.
By the way, Woodpulp is 50% more expensive than last year at this time. Those Christmas Cards are going to be expensive…
Nah, gonna get worse.
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wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 14:51 last edited by
Now, as to why...
https://www.today.com/news/another-paper-shortage-latest-supply-disruptions-mean-rcna2002
These guys push the pulp angle. That's not the whole story. The story is actually in the chemicals used in the production of paper. Chinese shipments have been down, for multiple reasons...Lack of Chinese paper production, lack of Chinese chemical production and the shipping logjam.
Domestic shipments are abysmal. Louisiana is a major chemical producer and the chemical plants were hugely affected by Hurricane Ida. I briefly worked in the paper industry a long time ago and still know a few people...Mills have been substituting chemicals and tweaking processes since early in the pandemic. The domestic mills, especially with some kinds of paper, have hit the wall. There is nothing left to substitute with.
Chinese chemicals + American chemicals = Not enough chemicals.
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wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 15:33 last edited by
No one should be surprised that the supply chain is brittle. Massive shocks were not built into the model and the hurricane impacts extend to many products. I wouldn’t want to be looking for a new car especially now, gas too.
Fixing all this will be a multi year effort.
Interestingly needless death is not the major concern. LOL
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wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 16:23 last edited by
Seriously, do you think about vaccines during sex?
The new avatar suits you.
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wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 17:18 last edited by
@jolly said in Paper Shortage:
Seriously, do you think about vaccines during sex?
The new avatar suits you.
Thank you for giving me the middle school experience again.
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@jolly said in Paper Shortage:
Seriously, do you think about vaccines during sex?
The new avatar suits you.
Thank you for giving me the middle school experience again.
wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 17:26 last edited by Jolly@loki said in Paper Shortage:
@jolly said in Paper Shortage:
Seriously, do you think about vaccines during sex?
The new avatar suits you.
Thank you for giving me the middle school experience again.
It's not middle school if it's factual. You have multiple posts today, dealing with chemical shortages to pro football, and you've mentioned COVID vaccines in every one of them.
You're giving monomaniacal a new definition.
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@lufins-dad said in Paper Shortage:
What do you mean “get ready”? It’s already here.
By the way, Woodpulp is 50% more expensive than last year at this time. Those Christmas Cards are going to be expensive…
Nah, gonna get worse.
wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 12:49 last edited by@jolly said in Paper Shortage:
@lufins-dad said in Paper Shortage:
What do you mean “get ready”? It’s already here.
By the way, Woodpulp is 50% more expensive than last year at this time. Those Christmas Cards are going to be expensive…
Nah, gonna get worse.
Oh, definitely. It’s still already well started…
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wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 12:53 last edited by
What to do?
Should we stock up on toilet paper and paper towels again?
Maybe keep those Amazon.com boxes around longer before recycling them? -
wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 13:03 last edited by
I bought a large pack of tp, paper towels, and tissues yesterday. Will do the same today
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wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 13:22 last edited by
I think it's going to extend to copy paper and such, this time.
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wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 11:23 last edited by
Costco announced limits on paper products in their earnings call yesterday.
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wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 11:36 last edited by LuFins Dad
@jon-nyc said in Paper Shortage:
Costco announced limits on paper products in their earnings call yesterday.
I just read the report. The weird thing is they are saying there’s plenty of product, just shortages in manpower in shipping. That kind of goes against the reports of paper shortages…
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wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 19:36 last edited by
There are three closed Chinese ports. There is a shipping logjam on the West Coast. There is a shortage of trucks and only so much rail rolling stock. And Hurricane Ida did a number on the Port of New Orleans and Cancer Alley in the Baton Rouge-New Orleans corridor.