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What happens when there's no market demand in China

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    You just blow shit up.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Well, at least they were built so poorly, it probably didn't take a lot of explosives...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        Link to video

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        • MikM Offline
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          Sobering video, if you watch all of it.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Building these towers contributed to GDP. Even destroying them contributes to GDP I guess.

            It's the same as if you sent thousands of workers to dig holes then fill them back in. If they're getting paid for it, I guess it's economic activity?

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Well, at least they were built so poorly, it probably didn't take a lot of explosives...

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              @jolly said in What happens when there's no market demand in China:

              Well, at least they were built so poorly, it probably didn't take a lot of explosives...

              Haha you think they used explosives? They just removed one brick.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Isn't Jenga a Chinese game?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • AxtremusA Away
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                  Axtremus
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                  Link to video

                  China’s Evergrande now being to compared to Lehman Brothers in the context of China’s property bubble and debt crisis.

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                  • markM Offline
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                    Not only is there a real estate money crisis, there is so much more bullshit under all of it.

                    From 3 years ago.

                    Link to video

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                      Excerpted from http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO17Sept2021.php

                      "A bizarre war of words has erupted in recent days in the pages of financial media between . . . George Soros and the gigantic BlackRock investment group. The issue is a decision by BlackRock CEO Larry Fink to open the first foreign-owned mutual fund in China presumably to attract the savings of China’s new (and fast disappearing) middle income population. In a recent newspaper interview Soros called the BlackRock decision a threat to BlackRock investors and to US national security.

                      "On September 6 Soros wrote . . . sharply criticizing BlackRock for investing in China: “It is a sad mistake to pour billions of dollars into China now. This is likely to lose money for BlackRock customers and, more importantly, harm the national security interests of the US and other democracies . . . The BlackRock Initiative threatens the national security interests of the US and other democracies because money invested in China will help advance President Xi’s regime, which is repressive at home and aggressive abroad.”

                      "The world’s “most valuable” real estate group is also the world’s most indebted real estate group. Evergrande, based in Shenzhen, has been teetering on the edge of bankruptcy for months as it defaults on loan after loan and the major credit rating agencies lower its rating to junk status. The group owes a total of $305 billion and that debt is both offshore in dollar loans as well as domestic unregulated loans from what are termed WMPs or wealth management products. As its finances implode and unit apartment sales plunge, tens of thousands of prospective apartment owners are threatened with having paid for unfinished apartments. To date the central bank of China has not intervened but speculation grows that a state bailout of the group is days away in order to prevent a systemic financial contagion. The reason is apparently that Evergrande is only the tip of a very debt-bloated China corporate sector iceberg."

                      See the article for much more.

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