A Trifle Unprofessional
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Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?
If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?
Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...
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@catseye3 said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
"As much as I hate bringing race or gender into a conversation that shouldn’t have anything to do with race or gender, it seems like most times when a Black conservative is targeted over their politics, it’s a White female radical progressive who’s behind the attack."
This opener, combined with the awful sidelights, discouraged me from reading anything more from this guy.
Maybe I'll read this thread. Later. Right now I need to try that black stuff that will help me lose 40 pounds in a month!
Oh, wait . . .
White progressive females have majority control over our cultural ideas about race. Sometimes we say that the left "paternalizes" black people, but it's clear that the better word would be "maternalize".
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Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?
If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?
Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...
@jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?
If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?
Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...
Think about the proponents of natural immunity and everything they shared with us thus far. The rhetoric has been proven dangerous to life. So no they have no credibility. The number 1 recommendation seems to be to get your ivermectin from a pet store. Number 2 is that Covid isn’t bad, yet many of those people are no longer with us to continue their skepticism.
Right now the name of the game is to stay alive and the vaccine is doing it. You can’t opine on the future if you are not there. The current offering is mostly grief and abuse of medical staff.
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The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
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The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
@horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.
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@horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.
@loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
@horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.
Rogan is vaccinated and he's "throwing the kitchen sink" at his COVID, which includes the safe drug Ivermectin, along with other things. It's actually a good, pragmatic response.
I am still curious how you would answer this hypothetical Loki:
Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Unless there are an important number of people in that category, the Ivermectin thing is just another way to marginalize people you don't like as ridiculous buffoons.
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@loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
@horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.
Rogan is vaccinated and he's "throwing the kitchen sink" at his COVID, which includes the safe drug Ivermectin, along with other things. It's actually a good, pragmatic response.
I am still curious how you would answer this hypothetical Loki:
Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Unless there are an important number of people in that category, the Ivermectin thing is just another way to marginalize people you don't like as ridiculous buffoons.
@horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
@loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
@horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?
Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.
Rogan is vaccinated and he's "throwing the kitchen sink" at his COVID, which includes the safe drug Ivermectin, along with other things. It's actually a good, pragmatic response.
I am still curious how you would answer this hypothetical Loki:
Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?
Unless there are an important number of people in that category, the Ivermectin thing is just another way to marginalize people you don't like as ridiculous buffoons.
As of yesterday Joe Rogan did not say if he is vaccinated but if he is and he is advocating vaccine plus the kitchen sink I am fine with that.
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@jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?
If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?
Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...
Think about the proponents of natural immunity and everything they shared with us thus far. The rhetoric has been proven dangerous to life. So no they have no credibility. The number 1 recommendation seems to be to get your ivermectin from a pet store. Number 2 is that Covid isn’t bad, yet many of those people are no longer with us to continue their skepticism.
Right now the name of the game is to stay alive and the vaccine is doing it. You can’t opine on the future if you are not there. The current offering is mostly grief and abuse of medical staff.
@loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
@jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:
Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?
If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?
Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...
Think about the proponents of natural immunity and everything they shared with us thus far. The rhetoric has been proven dangerous to life. So no they have no credibility. The number 1 recommendation seems to be to get your ivermectin from a pet store. Number 2 is that Covid isn’t bad, yet many of those people are no longer with us to continue their skepticism.
Right now the name of the game is to stay alive and the vaccine is doing it. You can’t opine on the future if you are not there. The current offering is mostly grief and abuse of medical staff.
If natural immunity does not work, there is no point in fielding a vaccine. It would be a monumental exercise in the folly of man.
