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    Jolly
    wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 13:43 last edited by
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    First Amendment.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 13:45 last edited by
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      Candace lost me when she went anti-everything COVID, but she should not be denied a test.

      Part of me though wonders if it was a bit of a setup.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        2 Sept 2021, 13:45

        Candace lost me when she went anti-everything COVID, but she should not be denied a test.

        Part of me though wonders if it was a bit of a setup.

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        Loki
        wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 13:50 last edited by
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        @mik said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

        Candace lost me when she went anti-everything COVID, but she should not be denied a test.

        Part of me though wonders if it was a bit of a setup.

        Well the issue exists in a bubble because it will only go viral in conservative social media. Good for electioneering but won’t reach any national agenda. Win win.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 13:53 last edited by
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          The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            2 Sept 2021, 13:53

            The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

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            Loki
            wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 13:58 last edited by
            #31

            @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

            The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

            Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

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            • L Loki
              2 Sept 2021, 13:58

              @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

              The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

              Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:03 last edited by
              #32

              @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

              @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

              The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

              Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

              No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

              If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                2 Sept 2021, 16:03

                @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

                Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

                No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

                If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

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                Loki
                wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:10 last edited by
                #33

                @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

                Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

                No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

                If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

                There comes a time when it’s over. No shortage of argument that everyone in the US knows, months and months. Each one has been systematically debunked.

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                • L Loki
                  2 Sept 2021, 16:10

                  @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

                  Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

                  No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

                  If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

                  There comes a time when it’s over. No shortage of argument that everyone in the US knows, months and months. Each one has been systematically debunked.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:18 last edited by Jolly 9 Feb 2021, 16:20
                  #34

                  @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                  The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

                  Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

                  No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

                  If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

                  There comes a time when it’s over. No shortage of argument that everyone in the US knows, months and months. Each one has been systematically debunked.

                  In your mind, perhaps. Exhibit A : Israel. Exhibit B: Delta Exhibit : Lambda, Gamma and Mu

                  When the vaccine becomes useless, will you still castigate the unvaccinated?

                  Lastly, whatever happened to HIPPA?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    2 Sept 2021, 16:18

                    @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

                    Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

                    No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

                    If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

                    There comes a time when it’s over. No shortage of argument that everyone in the US knows, months and months. Each one has been systematically debunked.

                    In your mind, perhaps. Exhibit A : Israel. Exhibit B: Delta Exhibit : Lambda, Gamma and Mu

                    When the vaccine becomes useless, will you still castigate the unvaccinated?

                    Lastly, whatever happened to HIPPA?

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:53 last edited by
                    #35

                    @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                    The only reason it won't make national news, is because the MSM won't touch stories like these.

                    Exactly. There is a message in that. A decision was made and time to move on. We are not adjudicating the anti vax issue anymore.

                    No, it's called an agenda and suppression of anything that doesn't agree with it.

                    If you can't see that, you're deaf, dumb and blind.

                    There comes a time when it’s over. No shortage of argument that everyone in the US knows, months and months. Each one has been systematically debunked.

                    In your mind, perhaps. Exhibit A : Israel. Exhibit B: Delta Exhibit : Lambda, Gamma and Mu

                    When the vaccine becomes useless, will you still castigate the unvaccinated?

                    Lastly, whatever happened to HIPPA?

                    Stoicism: do what you can with what you have where you are at.

                    We are all aware of what might happen but are focused on what is happening,

                    I never understood the

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:58 last edited by
                      #36

                      Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?

                      If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?

                      Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:12 last edited by
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                          2 Sept 2021, 17:12

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:16 last edited by
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                          @catseye3 said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                          "As much as I hate bringing race or gender into a conversation that shouldn’t have anything to do with race or gender, it seems like most times when a Black conservative is targeted over their politics, it’s a White female radical progressive who’s behind the attack."

                          This opener, combined with the awful sidelights, discouraged me from reading anything more from this guy.

                          Maybe I'll read this thread. Later. Right now I need to try that black stuff that will help me lose 40 pounds in a month!

                          Oh, wait . . .

                          White progressive females have majority control over our cultural ideas about race. Sometimes we say that the left "paternalizes" black people, but it's clear that the better word would be "maternalize".

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:17 last edited by
                            #39

                            More like infantilizes.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              2 Sept 2021, 17:17

                              More like infantilizes.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:18 last edited by
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                              @mik said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                              More like infantilizes.

                              Yes that's a better word still.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • J Jolly
                                2 Sept 2021, 16:58

                                Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?

                                If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?

                                Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:43 last edited by
                                #41

                                @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?

                                If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?

                                Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...

                                Think about the proponents of natural immunity and everything they shared with us thus far. The rhetoric has been proven dangerous to life. So no they have no credibility. The number 1 recommendation seems to be to get your ivermectin from a pet store. Number 2 is that Covid isn’t bad, yet many of those people are no longer with us to continue their skepticism.

                                Right now the name of the game is to stay alive and the vaccine is doing it. You can’t opine on the future if you are not there. The current offering is mostly grief and abuse of medical staff.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:52 last edited by
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                                  The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                  Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    2 Sept 2021, 17:52

                                    The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                    Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 17:55 last edited by Loki 9 Feb 2021, 17:56
                                    #43

                                    @horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                    The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                    Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                    Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.

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                                    • L Loki
                                      2 Sept 2021, 17:55

                                      @horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                      The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                      Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                      Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 18:11 last edited by Horace 9 Feb 2021, 18:13
                                      #44

                                      @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                      @horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                      The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                      Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                      Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.

                                      Rogan is vaccinated and he's "throwing the kitchen sink" at his COVID, which includes the safe drug Ivermectin, along with other things. It's actually a good, pragmatic response.

                                      I am still curious how you would answer this hypothetical Loki:

                                      Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                      Unless there are an important number of people in that category, the Ivermectin thing is just another way to marginalize people you don't like as ridiculous buffoons.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        2 Sept 2021, 18:11

                                        @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                        @horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                        The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                        Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                        Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.

                                        Rogan is vaccinated and he's "throwing the kitchen sink" at his COVID, which includes the safe drug Ivermectin, along with other things. It's actually a good, pragmatic response.

                                        I am still curious how you would answer this hypothetical Loki:

                                        Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                        Unless there are an important number of people in that category, the Ivermectin thing is just another way to marginalize people you don't like as ridiculous buffoons.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 18:35 last edited by
                                        #45

                                        @horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                        @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                        @horace said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                        The ivermectin thing is getting a lot of play, mostly I suspect from those who find it useful to giggle at the other side. But is there any information about how many people are actually pursuing Ivermectin as a treatment and foregoing the vaccines in favor of it?

                                        Of course there’s no data on that, silly of me to ask. So let’s do a thought experiment instead. Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                        Ask joe rogan. He brought it up to his 13 million followers just yesterday. He’s taking it for his Covid.

                                        Rogan is vaccinated and he's "throwing the kitchen sink" at his COVID, which includes the safe drug Ivermectin, along with other things. It's actually a good, pragmatic response.

                                        I am still curious how you would answer this hypothetical Loki:

                                        Are there lots of folk who would totally take the vaccine except for this possibility of finding some way to get Ivermectin?

                                        Unless there are an important number of people in that category, the Ivermectin thing is just another way to marginalize people you don't like as ridiculous buffoons.

                                        As of yesterday Joe Rogan did not say if he is vaccinated but if he is and he is advocating vaccine plus the kitchen sink I am fine with that.

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                                          2 Sept 2021, 17:43

                                          @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                          Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?

                                          If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?

                                          Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...

                                          Think about the proponents of natural immunity and everything they shared with us thus far. The rhetoric has been proven dangerous to life. So no they have no credibility. The number 1 recommendation seems to be to get your ivermectin from a pet store. Number 2 is that Covid isn’t bad, yet many of those people are no longer with us to continue their skepticism.

                                          Right now the name of the game is to stay alive and the vaccine is doing it. You can’t opine on the future if you are not there. The current offering is mostly grief and abuse of medical staff.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 22:57 last edited by
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                                          @loki said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                          @jolly said in A Trifle Unprofessional:

                                          Then let me do something with what I have...Why are you so focused on vaccinations that will be obsolete in just a few months, but never discuss natural immunity and whether it is superior to the vaccine?

                                          If natural immunity is better -it may or may not be - why aren't we testing antibody levels?

                                          Seems to me a good positive antibody test is better than a somewhat questionable lateral-flow antigen test. Yet you continue to worship at one and ignore the other...

                                          Think about the proponents of natural immunity and everything they shared with us thus far. The rhetoric has been proven dangerous to life. So no they have no credibility. The number 1 recommendation seems to be to get your ivermectin from a pet store. Number 2 is that Covid isn’t bad, yet many of those people are no longer with us to continue their skepticism.

                                          Right now the name of the game is to stay alive and the vaccine is doing it. You can’t opine on the future if you are not there. The current offering is mostly grief and abuse of medical staff.

                                          If natural immunity does not work, there is no point in fielding a vaccine. It would be a monumental exercise in the folly of man.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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