Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates
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Show me the science that proves that masks reduce the spread of covid among kindergartners. Hell, show me the science that proves masks reduce the spread of ANYTHING. The simple fact is, you cant. Since there is no science that proves that masks work, the view of mask wearing is caused by something other than scientific evidence, or logic. "What's wrong" with these governors is that they are attempting to follow the Constitution. Those who think making grade school and kindergarten kids wear a mask are basing their view on a politically correct lie, A lie that you are receptive to because it is a lie told by the politics you subscribe to. It is particularly untenable to you because your political affiliates have little to no use for the concept of individual rights and all that this entails. It's just not something you see as having any value.
Your political tribe tells you what to think, not science. Yet your political tribe screams "follow the science" so loud you think you are.
That's what's wrong with these governors. They are following the science, while you are following an ideological narrative.
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@larry said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
They are following the science, while you are following an ideological narrative.
It's only a theory.
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@89th said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@loki said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Masks seem to be an issue limited to the US and political philosophy? Do I have that right?
Yes, basically the same people that believe Trump won.
And that vaccines are not to be trusted.
"They're following the science" is a tough one to keep a straight face on.
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@loki said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Masks seem to be an issue limited to the US and political philosophy? Do I have that right?
I am not weighing in on mask effectiveness but understanding the origins and extent of anti masking.
Yes, of course
We have no real way to quantify their effectiveness.
Here is one way:
It is obvious, just common sense, that masks save lives
Shut upHere is another way:
It is obvious, just common sense, that masks are useless, even harmful
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We've managed in America to politicize reality. It's really quite amazing. It basically bankrupts the marketplace of ideas.
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This is clearly a politically motivated action.
Personally, I think schools should be able to make the decision themselves, since they're the ones putting themselves on the line.
Not everybody gets Regeneron treatment despite being asymptomatic, like the hero governing Texas.
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@mik said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Actually there is a crap ton of credible scientific evidence that masks help prevent transmission of COVID. To deny that is simply delusional.
69% of Americans approve of a mask mandate. In today’s world that is about as bipartisan as life gets. Even 44% of Republicans….but in Florida and Texas the governors will get re-elected regardless and anti mandate holds the base together to keep motivated to vote.
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@aqua-letifer said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
We've managed in America to politicize reality.
We're trying, but I think that's not possible. All we can do is fool ourselves and boy, are we getting good at that!
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@copper said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Shut up
All of you
Just shut up
I mean, I like absurdist performance art as much as the next guy, even in written form only, but fair go, man, don't you think it's gone too far?
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@aqua-letifer said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@copper said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Shut up
All of you
Just shut up
I mean, I like absurdist performance art as much as the next guy, even in written form only, but fair go, man, don't you think it's gone too far?
I cannot think of anything else that 69% of Americans agree on. It actually shows we might not be as divided as we think.
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@loki said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@aqua-letifer said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@copper said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Shut up
All of you
Just shut up
I mean, I like absurdist performance art as much as the next guy, even in written form only, but fair go, man, don't you think it's gone too far?
I cannot think of anything else that 69% of Americans agree on. It actually shows we might not be as divided as we think.
There's tons we agree on. If we're talking about it, it means we don't agree on it. The perception that we agree on nothing is really just the perception that people are talking.
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@horace said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@loki said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@aqua-letifer said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
@copper said in Texas Public Schools and Mask Mandates:
Shut up
All of you
Just shut up
I mean, I like absurdist performance art as much as the next guy, even in written form only, but fair go, man, don't you think it's gone too far?
I cannot think of anything else that 69% of Americans agree on. It actually shows we might not be as divided as we think.
There's tons we agree on. If we're talking about it, it means we don't agree on it. The perception that we agree on nothing is really just the perception that people are talking.
Good point.
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49 studies that masks work:
The Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic and UAB amongst others say they do on their websites but not linking because didn’t see the studies.
So where is there an equal weight of analysis that say they don’t?
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When i said there was no scientific evidence to support the notion that masks work I was referring to masks on kindergarten and grade school kids. I thought that was obvious, apparently not. That said, I've been mocked and ridiculed for being a Trump supporter, called delusional, and told that "many studies exist that prove masks work", but not a single bit of evidence has been offered.
I'm also getting tired of down your nose commentary that insinuates Trump supporters are all stupid. I'm specifically referring to 89ths comments and attitude. This down your nose snobbery goes even further than 89th took it actually, to straight up state that all Trump supporters are toothless hillbillies living in the south with 3rd grade educations, dumb as bricks, and all around inferior to the "sophisticated" northerner. I honestly do believe that this is how 89th sees things.
I hate to break it to you 89th, but I'm not a toothless hillbilly with a third grade education living in a trailer. I'm as well educated as you are, I could probably drop your house into my garage, I've got more money than I know what to do with, and I didn't get here by being ignorant. So shove your "superior to you" attitude square up your ass.
A very good friend of mine is a medical doctor. He worked with my wife when she had covid. I value his opinion. This is in his area of expertise. I asked him if masks work. He said "does your underwear stop a fart?"I'm not anti mask, I'm not anti vaccine. I wore a mask up until I got my second dose of the vaccine, I'll be getting the booster shot. So don't try to portray me according to your "I am superior to you" view of things. I'm making a point here - at what point do you stop allowing political narratives to take your freedoms away?
F you chain a dog to a tree, he soon learns how far he can get from the tree and becomes satisfied with that. Remove one link a day from the chain, and the dog never notices that his freedom is being taken away. This is the important issue, not your "I'm smarter than you because I believe in masks " snobbery, and not bending to a politically correct "masks work so unless you agree to force 5 year olds to wear masks you're a Nazi bull shit.
