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Dm - the heartbreak key

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/music-d-minor-saddest-key-1210591/?fbclid=IwAR2ERGOvjhgREfHOcszvZyHFWr2mQ56463s14B9u9dXKUMp7veiZI7Ly1Ls

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Excellent scholarship in this article - it cites Nigel Tufnel.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        We always used to play the old standard Summertime in D minor. We managed to survive the experience, although admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          We always used to play the old standard Summertime in D minor. We managed to survive the experience, although admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

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          George K
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          #4

          @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

          admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

          That probably would have occurred regardless of what key you played it in.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            We always used to play the old standard Summertime in D minor. We managed to survive the experience, although admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

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            LuFins Dad
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            #5

            @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

            We always used to play the old standard Summertime in D minor. We managed to survive the experience, although admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

            Alto or Tenor? Transposing to Bm is a bigger pain than Em…

            The Brad

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            • George KG George K

              @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

              admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

              That probably would have occurred regardless of what key you played it in.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              @george-k said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

              @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

              admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

              That probably would have occurred regardless of what key you played it in.

              My brother and I used to busk it in the local bus station for beer money - there was a very resonant underground walkway, and the sound carried a long way. One time, a little old lady came up to us and very politely said 'You both sound very nice....but do you really need to both play at the same time?'

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @george-k said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

                That probably would have occurred regardless of what key you played it in.

                My brother and I used to busk it in the local bus station for beer money - there was a very resonant underground walkway, and the sound carried a long way. One time, a little old lady came up to us and very politely said 'You both sound very nice....but do you really need to both play at the same time?'

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #7

                @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                'You both sound very nice....but do you really need to both play at the same time?'

                🀀

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
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                  I know it’s sad when Klaus plays anything in D minor.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I know it’s sad when Klaus plays anything in D minor.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I know it’s sad when Klaus plays anything in D minor.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @jon-nyc said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                      I know it’s sad when Klaus plays anything in D minor

                      Hey, look on the bright side - at least you can occasionally tell what key he's in.

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #11

                        So where has Herr Klaus been lately? I wonder is he just sick of Afghanistan.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          George K
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                          OK, for the really musical people here....

                          I've never understood why some music is written in specific keys.

                          Is C major really that different from D-flat major? In this day of equal temperament, the differences in "color" whatever seem to be negligible.

                          Of course, Eb was the "heroic" key, back in the day. Does it really matter today?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            So where has Herr Klaus been lately? I wonder is he just sick of Afghanistan.

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                            @mik said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                            So where has Herr Klaus been lately? I wonder is he just sick of Afghanistan.

                            He was on about 6 hours ago.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              OK, for the really musical people here....

                              I've never understood why some music is written in specific keys.

                              Is C major really that different from D-flat major? In this day of equal temperament, the differences in "color" whatever seem to be negligible.

                              Of course, Eb was the "heroic" key, back in the day. Does it really matter today?

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                              @george-k said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                              Of course, Eb was the "heroic" key, back in the day.

                              It's certainly heroic if you play the alto sax.

                              The biggest problem I always had was playing with bloody guitarists, and they all want to play in E major and Am, which puts an alto player in C# major and F#m. What a pain in the ass.

                              I was only joking

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                                #15

                                Summertime Dm

                                Link to video

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #16

                                  If you want proof that Dm is a sad key, listen to this, not in Dm!

                                  The first jazz album I ever bought.

                                  Link to video

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @george-k said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                                    Of course, Eb was the "heroic" key, back in the day.

                                    It's certainly heroic if you play the alto sax.

                                    The biggest problem I always had was playing with bloody guitarists, and they all want to play in E major and Am, which puts an alto player in C# major and F#m. What a pain in the ass.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                                    @george-k said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                                    Of course, Eb was the "heroic" key, back in the day.

                                    It's certainly heroic if you play the alto sax.

                                    The biggest problem I always had was playing with bloody guitarists, and they all want to play in E major and Am, which puts an alto player in C# major and F#m. What a pain in the ass.

                                    I actually got pretty good at F# M and m, so when the guitarist wanted to play in E, I just switched to Tenor…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                                      admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

                                      That probably would have occurred regardless of what key you played it in.

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                                      jodi
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                                      @george-k said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Dm - the heartbreak key:

                                      admittedly we frequently left our listeners weeping.

                                      That probably would have occurred regardless of what key you played it in.

                                      snort, snort, snort πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„

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