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  • JollyJ Jolly

    People elected her, knowing her political stances on this stuff. Constantly telling people they're full of crap will not change their minds.

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    @jolly said in Antivaxxer madness:

    People elected her, knowing her political stances on this stuff. Constantly telling people they're full of crap will not change their minds.

    Yeah, people elected AOC, too. If that's the best defence you've got, you may find yourself needing to power up the Jewish Space Laser.

    I was only joking

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      Nope, same thing. Even AOC occasionally has a decent idea.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        You’ll never tell the people who voted for AOC that they are full of crap, right, right?

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          Where the hell did you come up with that half-baked piece of bullshit extrapolation?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            She's repulsive.

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            @doctor-phibes said in Antivaxxer madness:

            She's repulsive.

            She’s the equivalent of AOC. She’s what happens when you elect an absolute moron who has the support of her local gang.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @jolly said in Antivaxxer madness:

              What she's saying is that the vaccines are not as effective as portrayed.

              In that, she's right.

              No, her words are literally that the vaccines do not reduce the spread of the virus. She didn't qualify that as "not as much as what was portrayed."

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              @aqua-letifer said in Antivaxxer madness:

              @jolly said in Antivaxxer madness:

              What she's saying is that the vaccines are not as effective as portrayed.

              In that, she's right.

              No, her words are literally that the vaccines do not reduce the spread of the virus. She didn't qualify that as "not as much as what was portrayed."

              Her words are indirectly KILLING people. Absolute insanity.

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                If this thread has taught me anything it's that I no longer question how in the fuck pineapple on pizza ever happened.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  If this thread has taught me anything it's that I no longer question how in the fuck pineapple on pizza ever happened.

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                  @aqua-letifer said in Antivaxxer madness:

                  If this thread has taught me anything it's that I no longer question how in the fuck pineapple on pizza ever happened.

                  🤣

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Honestly, I don't see any reason to give the whacko outliers any more attention than they deserve. Which is to say none.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      #27

                      News.

                      Normal is no longer drawing eyeballs.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          If this thread has taught me anything it's that I no longer question how in the fuck pineapple on pizza ever happened.

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                          @aqua-letifer said in Antivaxxer madness:

                          If this thread has taught me anything it's that I no longer question how in the fuck pineapple on pizza ever happened.

                          😆😆😆😆😅

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                            Lock her the fuck up.

                            A German nurse is being investigated for allegedly injecting thousands of people with a placebo instead of the coronavirus vaccine.

                            Based on witness testimony, police investigator Peter Beer said there was “a reasonable suspicion” that the rogue medical professional had administered shots of saline solution to up to 8,600 patients who were slated to receive the COVID jab, Reuters reported.

                            “I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councilor, said of the alarming switcheroo, which reportedly occurred in March and April in Friesland in northern Germany.

                            It’s unknown why the shot-blocker — reportedly a Red Cross nurse — had injected people with blanks; however, she had reportedly broadcast anti-vax views on social media, investigators reported.

                            And while the faux jab was harmless, it may have disproportionately affected elderly people, who are at a greater risk of contracting the virus.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              Lock her the fuck up.

                              A German nurse is being investigated for allegedly injecting thousands of people with a placebo instead of the coronavirus vaccine.

                              Based on witness testimony, police investigator Peter Beer said there was “a reasonable suspicion” that the rogue medical professional had administered shots of saline solution to up to 8,600 patients who were slated to receive the COVID jab, Reuters reported.

                              “I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councilor, said of the alarming switcheroo, which reportedly occurred in March and April in Friesland in northern Germany.

                              It’s unknown why the shot-blocker — reportedly a Red Cross nurse — had injected people with blanks; however, she had reportedly broadcast anti-vax views on social media, investigators reported.

                              And while the faux jab was harmless, it may have disproportionately affected elderly people, who are at a greater risk of contracting the virus.

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                              @george-k said in Antivaxxer madness:

                              And while the faux jab was harmless, it may have disproportionately affected elderly people, who are at a greater risk of contracting the virus.

                              This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness, if it could be brought off. Questions would arise as the saline people are victims. and lawsuits against the hospital and so forth.

                              I'm thinking the nurse needs a psych eval before any criminal prosecution. Because what she did is, y'know, crazy.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                @george-k said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                And while the faux jab was harmless, it may have disproportionately affected elderly people, who are at a greater risk of contracting the virus.

                                This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness, if it could be brought off. Questions would arise as the saline people are victims. and lawsuits against the hospital and so forth.

                                I'm thinking the nurse needs a psych eval before any criminal prosecution. Because what she did is, y'know, crazy.

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                                @catseye3 said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness,

                                Hadn't that already been done in clinical trials?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @catseye3 said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                  This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness,

                                  Hadn't that already been done in clinical trials?

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                                  @george-k I'm not following the story of the various vaccines' history that closely, but my impression is that real-world efficacy has been variable. Y'all would know more about that than I would. If the outcomes of the vaccines are predicted based on trials and the real-world result ends up different from what was predicted, then a new set of trials would seem indicated.

                                  Not that I'd know.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @catseye3 said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                    This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness,

                                    Hadn't that already been done in clinical trials?

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                                    @george-k said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                    @catseye3 said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                    This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness,

                                    Hadn't that already been done in clinical trials?

                                    Not to mention we have a natural experiment with n=300,000,000.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @george-k said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                      @catseye3 said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                      This would be a golden opportunity to conduct a comparison between vaccinated and the saline group as to vaccine effectiveness,

                                      Hadn't that already been done in clinical trials?

                                      Not to mention we have a natural experiment with n=300,000,000.

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                                      @jon-nyc Isn't that N kind of sloppy, though?

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                        @george-k I'm not following the story of the various vaccines' history that closely, but my impression is that real-world efficacy has been variable. Y'all would know more about that than I would. If the outcomes of the vaccines are predicted based on trials and the real-world result ends up different from what was predicted, then a new set of trials would seem indicated.

                                        Not that I'd know.

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                                        bachophile
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                                        @catseye3 said in Antivaxxer madness:

                                        @george-k I'm not following the story of the various vaccines' history that closely, but my impression is that real-world efficacy has been variable. Y'all would know more about that than I would. If the outcomes of the vaccines are predicted based on trials and the real-world result ends up different from what was predicted, then a new set of trials would seem indicated.

                                        Not that I'd know.

                                        The moderna and Pfizer trials both published in New England where randomized 1 to 1 with placebo. There are various reasons that real world data differs from clinical trials. Clinical trials are very regulated and strict and often don’t reflect the chaos of real world data.

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