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Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    By the way, the number is probably even higher as I didn’t factor in when some people were not fully vaccinated then became fully vaccinated…

    This particular metric being tossed around by the media and CDC over the last week is the biggest red flag I have seen…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      More than 99.2% of people in the US who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a case resulting in hospitalization or death since the vaccines became generally available to adults over 18 in the US.

      99.2 vs 99.9 ain’t such a big difference.

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      @lufins-dad said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

      More than 99.2% of people in the US who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a case resulting in hospitalization or death since the vaccines became generally available to adults over 18 in the US.

      99.2 vs 99.9 ain’t such a big difference.

      On 300 million people the difference is 2.1 million, correct?

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        Run the math yourself and tell me what you come up with…

        https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/weekly-hospital-admissions-covid

        I started from April 4th, but probably should really have started in Mid May since most adults under 65 weren’t fully vaccinated till then. I also didn’t break out children hospitalizations even though this discussion is based on adults. OTOH, I also overestimated the population by 7,000,000 or so.

        The point still stands whether the actuaa a l number is 98.8 or 99.5. Roughly 99% of Americans haven’t been hospitalized for COVID over the last 4 months whether vaccinated or not.

        For that matter, I bet 97% of the population hasn’t been hospitalized for COVID over the entire duration.

        The Brad

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          People are going to start saying it's no worse than the flu soon.

          What's the ICU availability like in Texas at the moment?

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            People are going to start saying it's no worse than the flu soon.

            What's the ICU availability like in Texas at the moment?

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            @doctor-phibes said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

            People are going to start saying it's no worse than the flu soon.

            For a long time people were upset because the flu was worse. But over time COVID beat the flu.

            Is the flu coming back now?

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              People are going to start saying it's no worse than the flu soon.

              What's the ICU availability like in Texas at the moment?

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              @doctor-phibes said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

              People are going to start saying it's no worse than the flu soon.

              What's the ICU availability like in Texas at the moment?

              Irrelevant. According to the media and the CDC this week, the important number is the percentage not going to the hospital… Well, almost all of the unvaccinated aren’t going to the hospital. Win!

              The Brad

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              • CopperC Copper

                @doctor-phibes said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

                People are going to start saying it's no worse than the flu soon.

                For a long time people were upset because the flu was worse. But over time COVID beat the flu.

                Is the flu coming back now?

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                @copper said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

                For a long time people were upset because the flu was worse.

                The flu was never worse. Saying the flu is worse than Ebola because fewer die of Ebola is idiotic.

                I was only joking

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                  It’s all about body count

                  You can’t find a description of any pandemic in the last thousand years where body count is not mentioned in the first paragraph

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    More than 99.2% of people in the US who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a case resulting in hospitalization or death since the vaccines became generally available to adults over 18 in the US.

                    99.2 vs 99.9 ain’t such a big difference.

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                    @lufins-dad said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

                    More than 99.2% of people in the US who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a case resulting in hospitalization or death since the vaccines became generally available to adults over 18 in the US.

                    99.2 vs 99.9 ain’t such a big difference.

                    Not sure your point…?

                    As of mid July, 99.5% of all covid deaths were unvaccinated folks.

                    Today, compared to unvaccinated, if you’re vaccinated you have an 8x chance of not getting COVID and a 25x of not being hospitalized or dying

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      More than 99.2% of people in the US who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a case resulting in hospitalization or death since the vaccines became generally available to adults over 18 in the US.

                      99.2 vs 99.9 ain’t such a big difference.

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                      @lufins-dad said in Some really good news - let’s hope it holds!:

                      More than 99.2% of people in the US who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a case resulting in hospitalization or death since the vaccines became generally available to adults over 18 in the US.

                      99.2 vs 99.9 ain’t such a big difference.

                      Just saw Loki's thread. His numbers were as follows:

                      As of Aug. 2, more than 164 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the CDC. Fewer than 0.001% of those individuals — 1,507 people — died and fewer than 0.005% — 7,101 people — were hospitalized with Covid-19.

                      If I did the math right, 800 / 100,000 unvaccinated Americans have been hospitalized, whereas 5/100,000 vaccinated Americans have been hospitalized.

                      That's if we're comparing 99.2% vs. 99.995%.

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                        Maybe the metadata is that, but from where I sit the percentage of vaccinated people in the hospital is higher.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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