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  • 89th8 89th

    @doctor-phibes said in Can someone explain this to me?:

    I'm none the wiser after reading all that.

    And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

    Bitcoin is a type of "crypto currency". Aka digital money you can't hold, and that isn't owned by anyone or any government.

    It's internet money. Enough people have decided it's real enough that they use it like real money to buy/sell things, and so the "equivalent dollar price" of what a bitcoin is worth has gone up based on the demand to have one.

    Every time a bitcoin is created or used, it updates this magical internet ledger so every transaction and every bitcoin ever is tracked using the internet.

    To create a bitcoin, which 99.999% of bitcoin users do not do because it's so expensive, you have to run lots of computer actions that conform to the bitcoin software rules.

    Right now the energy it takes to run all of those computer actions is approximately the same energy used by a US household for 53 days.

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    @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

    And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

    Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

    I'm no economist (eyes rolling here), but it seems to me that bitcoin's supposed advantage is its greatest weakness -- that government backing of a country's currency is what makes it "go", whether you like it or not. Why all the mention of a "strong dollar" like it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

    Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

      And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

      Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

      I'm no economist (eyes rolling here), but it seems to me that bitcoin's supposed advantage is its greatest weakness -- that government backing of a country's currency is what makes it "go", whether you like it or not. Why all the mention of a "strong dollar" like it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

      Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

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      Aqua Letifer
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      @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

      it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

      Don't listen to 89th, he's a sucker. Bitcoin was so 2019.

      It's 2021, son, NFT is where it's at! You best get in the game!

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

        it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

        Don't listen to 89th, he's a sucker. Bitcoin was so 2019.

        It's 2021, son, NFT is where it's at! You best get in the game!

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        @aqua-letifer Nix! Don't do this to me! I want no parts of a same-only-different from bitcoin! Having enough trouble as it is. Not to mention that I don't even care that much!

        Reading over my last post, I'm embarrassed to feel like Captain Obvious. "Government backing is important?" Really???

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

          it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

          Don't listen to 89th, he's a sucker. Bitcoin was so 2019.

          It's 2021, son, NFT is where it's at! You best get in the game!

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          89th
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          @aqua-letifer said in Can someone explain this to me?:

          @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

          it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

          Don't listen to 89th, he's a sucker. Bitcoin was so 2019.

          It's 2021, son, NFT is where it's at! You best get in the game!

          I really think NFTs is the long term value here btw. Being able to "guarantee" ownership of digital property is the way of the future.

          The way of the future.

          The way of the future.

          The way of the future.

          The way of the future.

          The way of the future.

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

            And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

            Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

            I'm no economist (eyes rolling here), but it seems to me that bitcoin's supposed advantage is its greatest weakness -- that government backing of a country's currency is what makes it "go", whether you like it or not. Why all the mention of a "strong dollar" like it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

            Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

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            89th
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            @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

            Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

            Pretty much!

            Although one could argue that could happen even with the US Dollar, but at least for the next few decades that doesn't seem even close to possible.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

              And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

              Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

              I'm no economist (eyes rolling here), but it seems to me that bitcoin's supposed advantage is its greatest weakness -- that government backing of a country's currency is what makes it "go", whether you like it or not. Why all the mention of a "strong dollar" like it's THE desirable thing -- with which everyone in the developed world agrees, and everyone relies on.

              Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

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              LuFins Dad
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              @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

              @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

              And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

              Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

              Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

              And this is different from the regular economy how?

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

                @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

                And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

                Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

                Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

                And this is different from the regular economy how?

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                @lufins-dad said in Can someone explain this to me?:

                @catseye3 said in Can someone explain this to me?:

                @89th said in Can someone explain this to me?:

                And for @Catseye3 , how about this description:

                Thanks, 89th. That's the clearest explanation I've gotten yet.

                Something kinda Monopoly money-ish about bitcoin, it seems to me. And it relies on everyone's participation. If enough people drop out, where does that leave you?

                And this is different from the regular economy how?

                That's the difference I mentioned in the first response. All currencies rest on agreement that they are valuable, and that agreement in turn rests on something else. The dollar rests on the threat of violence, while bitcoin rests on the inertia of wide adoption and the fact that it's not a fiat currency that depends on the threat of violence.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Horace
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                  Liz Warren to the rescue!

                  Sen. Elizabeth Warren: Crypto markets might need bailout someday without proper regulation

                  What a slime bag.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    xenon
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                    Another kick at the can on definition.

                    Bitcoin is an attempt to make digital gold. It acts as a store of value, the supply is constrained (through technical means).

                    But gold is just a shiny rock (the value doesn't come from its industrial uses). What gives it value is that enough people believe in it.

                    I will admit that lots of people believe in Bitcoin's value. But it's just a shiny rock, it doesn't do much.

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                    • X xenon

                      Another kick at the can on definition.

                      Bitcoin is an attempt to make digital gold. It acts as a store of value, the supply is constrained (through technical means).

                      But gold is just a shiny rock (the value doesn't come from its industrial uses). What gives it value is that enough people believe in it.

                      I will admit that lots of people believe in Bitcoin's value. But it's just a shiny rock, it doesn't do much.

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                      @xenon Digital gold, great analogy. Finite supply, inherently worthless, but collective agreement makes it valuable.

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                        Backed by the full faith and credit of the sovereign Sandia Republic

                        Link to video

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