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  • OptimisticO Offline
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    Optimistic
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    #16

    I´d love to see more focus on the 3 other Team members who competed with this disability and won the silver.

    Biles is an amazing gymnast, and she has been on top for nearly a decade. It´s unfortunate she will not be competing in the all-around, but there are a lot of other highly-skilled gymnasts in the field and it will be exciting to see how the competition plays out now with this opening.

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    • CopperC Online
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      She choked and she and the team paid the price. Fine, end of a sad story.

      The stuff about courage sounds like wishful thinking.

      Her net worth is still $10M+, she'll be fine.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        #18

        Not quitting would have been even more courageous. But now she can be an advocate for mental health or something. If she has a publicist, and I'm sure she does, that publicist sees this as a net positive.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          From here on out, it's all spin.

          Better to have done your best and fail.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • L Offline
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            Loki
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            #20

            I am not rushing to judgement yet.

            It’s the hottest news event going and there is a need for media on all sides to feed it.

            The Russians won, we came in second. Whether Simone perceived a risk for the team to fall out of medaling and was unselfish is the question.

            My personal competitiveness tells me Silver is a hell of a lot better than nothing. The drama around others standing up to extreme pressure and performing without prep was thrilling. Edge of the seat thrilling.

            Anyone who thinks they know what was in Simone’s head is way over their skis at the moment.

            If some are saying white privilege (think CRT) has created toxic competitiveness is full of shit.

            Final thought, watching Simone on the vault and one other routine before she dropped out is quite telling that she was crashing, very predictive.

            If you didn’t watch the entire event your are missing too much to speak with any authority.

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            • L Loki

              I am not rushing to judgement yet.

              It’s the hottest news event going and there is a need for media on all sides to feed it.

              The Russians won, we came in second. Whether Simone perceived a risk for the team to fall out of medaling and was unselfish is the question.

              My personal competitiveness tells me Silver is a hell of a lot better than nothing. The drama around others standing up to extreme pressure and performing without prep was thrilling. Edge of the seat thrilling.

              Anyone who thinks they know what was in Simone’s head is way over their skis at the moment.

              If some are saying white privilege (think CRT) has created toxic competitiveness is full of shit.

              Final thought, watching Simone on the vault and one other routine before she dropped out is quite telling that she was crashing, very predictive.

              If you didn’t watch the entire event your are missing too much to speak with any authority.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              @loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

              I am not rushing to judgement yet.

              It’s the hottest news event going and there is a need for media on all sides to feed it.

              The Russians won, we came in second. Whether Simone perceived a risk for the team to fall out of medaling and was unselfish is the question.

              My personal competitiveness tells me Silver is a hell of a lot better than nothing. The drama around others standing up to extreme pressure and performing without prep was thrilling. Edge of the seat thrilling.

              Anyone who thinks they know what was in Simone’s head is way over their skis at the moment.

              If some are saying white privilege (think CRT) has created toxic competitiveness is full of shit.

              Final thought, watching Simone on the vault and one other routine before she dropped out is quite telling that she was crashing, very predictive.

              If you didn’t watch the entire event your are missing too much to speak with any authority.

              I saw her events, and agree something was wrong. But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                There are certainly more sane ways to retire.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • AxtremusA Away
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                  Axtremus
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                  @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                  But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

                  It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                    But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

                    It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #24

                    @axtremus said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                    @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                    But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

                    It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.

                    Say Ax, is there a way to block moderators on the forum?

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                      But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

                      It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.

                      Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
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                      @axtremus said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                      greatness is overrated.

                      Sez who? By what standard?

                      If it wasn't for thinking about and having fascination with greatness, life would be considerably less interesting than it is.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                        But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

                        It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #26

                        @axtremus said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                        @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                        But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.

                        It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.

                        An acceptance of one's own mediocrity is very zen, but probably not typical of world class athletes.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #27

                          My pastor weighed in on this issue...Thought his take was interesting. In his youth, he never made the Olympics, but he did finish in the top five NCAA pole vaulters a couple of times.

                          He thought she should have competed. The time to step aside was before the Olympics started. Let the alternate gymnast get her mind in the right place for competition. Once you commit, you commit for the team. He referenced Kerri Strug, who couldn't hardly walk, but still completed her vault to help her team.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #28

                            I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.

                              CopperC Online
                              CopperC Online
                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #29

                              @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.

                              We can only hope

                              https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-rooting-against-americas-olympic-athletes

                              THE RIGHT IS NOW ROOTING AGAINST AMERICA’S OLYMPIC ATHLETES

                              Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.

                                We can only hope

                                https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-rooting-against-americas-olympic-athletes

                                THE RIGHT IS NOW ROOTING AGAINST AMERICA’S OLYMPIC ATHLETES

                                Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #30

                                @copper said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.

                                We're not going to make it, are we?

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                  I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.

                                  We can only hope

                                  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-rooting-against-americas-olympic-athletes

                                  THE RIGHT IS NOW ROOTING AGAINST AMERICA’S OLYMPIC ATHLETES

                                  Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.

                                  MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #31

                                  @copper said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                  I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.

                                  We can only hope

                                  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-rooting-against-americas-olympic-athletes

                                  THE RIGHT IS NOW ROOTING AGAINST AMERICA’S OLYMPIC ATHLETES

                                  Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.

                                  Not by anyone I know.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    #32

                                    Here's a list of those conservative right-wing 'talkers':

                                    Clay Travis
                                    Buck Sexton
                                    Piers Morgan
                                    Amber Athey
                                    John Daniel Davidson
                                    Charlie Kirk

                                    These peoples' remarks are truly horrendous. One of them -- don't ask me which one, I can't stand the idea of going back and looking for it -- said Biles brought 'shame to America'. No, you atrocious little insect, it's not Biles bringing shame to America, it's you and your spirit of vileness.

                                    Go here for the deets if you can stand it: https://www.thedailybeast.com/right-wing-media-attacks-weak-simone-biles-selfish-sociopath

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • HoraceH Offline
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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by Horace
                                      #33

                                      Imagine the QB deciding he couldn’t play in the super bowl, after the first set of downs, because his head wasn’t in it. The fanbase would feel betrayed, of course. please have some empathy for a normal human reaction.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        Imagine the QB deciding he couldn’t play in the super bowl, after the first set of downs, because his head wasn’t in it. The fanbase would feel betrayed, of course. please have some empathy for a normal human reaction.

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                                        Catseye3
                                        wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                        #34

                                        @horace There is nothing normal, and nothing belonging in a civilized human society, about what these people are saying. They are beyond anything remotely acceptable.

                                        My god, what are we coming to?

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          My pastor weighed in on this issue...Thought his take was interesting. In his youth, he never made the Olympics, but he did finish in the top five NCAA pole vaulters a couple of times.

                                          He thought she should have competed. The time to step aside was before the Olympics started. Let the alternate gymnast get her mind in the right place for competition. Once you commit, you commit for the team. He referenced Kerri Strug, who couldn't hardly walk, but still completed her vault to help her team.

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                                          Optimistic
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                                          #35

                                          @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          My pastor weighed in on this issue...Thought his take was interesting. In his youth, he never made the Olympics, but he did finish in the top five NCAA pole vaulters a couple of times.

                                          He thought she should have competed. The time to step aside was before the Olympics started. Let the alternate gymnast get her mind in the right place for competition. Once you commit, you commit for the team. He referenced Kerri Strug, who couldn't hardly walk, but still completed her vault to help her team.

                                          https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/sports/tokyo-summer-olympics/1996-olympic-gymnast-kerri-strug-praises-simone-biles-decision/2542251/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CTBrand&fbclid=IwAR1ZXQ52dr5QWz0eTOzGHYhM_x_euEHrvWhaIPAiSLp4GsTS4UkiyCiftIw

                                          "While the world cheered her on for her perseverance, many fellow gymnasts who endured the rigors of coaches Bela and Marta Karolyi’s ranch believed Strug was conditioned to push through her pain under an abusive environment where girls were afraid to challenge authority."

                                          Gymnastics has changed since '96 in a lot of ways, with some really significant changes still so recent. The confronting of Larry Nassar by over 100 of the girls he sexually abused only just happened in 2018. Many of those girls had reported him and been ignored.

                                          Bela and Marta Karolyi transformed US gymnastics, but are now being called out for their years of verbal and mental abuse. Maggie Haney (coach of Olympic and world champions) was accused of verbal and emotional abuse in 2016, but did not get investigated until a few years later (she's now serving time).

                                          I don't miss the days of delayed-pubescent teenage girls being intimidated by their coaches to compete moves they are not comfortable with, and a lot of those former elite gymnasts don't miss those days, either.

                                          Kind of shocking to see so many people doubt that Biles--a veteran national, world, and Olympic champion, who won some of those with broken toes and kidney stones--would not know her own limits.

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