Biles bails at the Olympics
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@george-k said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
@loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
I don’t think any viewer thought Simone bravery>Russian Gold.
I never said that, did I? I also never besmirched the Russians for their win.
But, her "courage" did cost the US the Gold Medal.
Sorry did not mean to imply you did. Competition is about winning and on some level choking is choking.
She could redeem herself with a comeback win and/or she could have an amazing career after on the topic of choking and coaching elite athletes through choking and how to prevent.
The science of what is going on in the brain during extreme stress is still young and it’s a podcasting boom.
I read the accounts all day and then I watched late last night. I was somewhat shocked by the gap between what was said and what I saw. That is what I meant by viewer.
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@loki On the choking question, did she or didn't she, I'm thinking you hadda been there to answer that with any usefulness. That is, you hadda shared in the struggle to gain the peak -- in rain or shine, in sickness or in health, in good mood or bad.
Armchair "Olympiads" can't know. Just as we cannot know what is involved in the climb to the Olympics. We can read all about it, but we can't know, not really.
We're like the brat in Jon's Funny Pics post, watching an Olympiad's outstanding performance but wobbling a half inch upon landing: "This guy sucks."
My immediate -- and profoundly ignorant -- reaction to Biles' dropping out was, "damn her; if she couldn't handle the heat she shoulda stayed out of the kitchen," and my emotional self still kinda feels that way. Not that I'm proud of that. But my sensible self does know better.
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I´d love to see more focus on the 3 other Team members who competed with this disability and won the silver.
Biles is an amazing gymnast, and she has been on top for nearly a decade. It´s unfortunate she will not be competing in the all-around, but there are a lot of other highly-skilled gymnasts in the field and it will be exciting to see how the competition plays out now with this opening.
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I am not rushing to judgement yet.
It’s the hottest news event going and there is a need for media on all sides to feed it.
The Russians won, we came in second. Whether Simone perceived a risk for the team to fall out of medaling and was unselfish is the question.
My personal competitiveness tells me Silver is a hell of a lot better than nothing. The drama around others standing up to extreme pressure and performing without prep was thrilling. Edge of the seat thrilling.
Anyone who thinks they know what was in Simone’s head is way over their skis at the moment.
If some are saying white privilege (think CRT) has created toxic competitiveness is full of shit.
Final thought, watching Simone on the vault and one other routine before she dropped out is quite telling that she was crashing, very predictive.
If you didn’t watch the entire event your are missing too much to speak with any authority.
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@loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
I am not rushing to judgement yet.
It’s the hottest news event going and there is a need for media on all sides to feed it.
The Russians won, we came in second. Whether Simone perceived a risk for the team to fall out of medaling and was unselfish is the question.
My personal competitiveness tells me Silver is a hell of a lot better than nothing. The drama around others standing up to extreme pressure and performing without prep was thrilling. Edge of the seat thrilling.
Anyone who thinks they know what was in Simone’s head is way over their skis at the moment.
If some are saying white privilege (think CRT) has created toxic competitiveness is full of shit.
Final thought, watching Simone on the vault and one other routine before she dropped out is quite telling that she was crashing, very predictive.
If you didn’t watch the entire event your are missing too much to speak with any authority.
I saw her events, and agree something was wrong. But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.
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@jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.
It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.
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@axtremus said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
@jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.
It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.
Say Ax, is there a way to block moderators on the forum?
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@axtremus said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
@jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
But, greatness is not only how physically talented you are, but also how mentally tough you can be.
It's just sports, greatness is overrated. It's not like lives are at stake. Just do your best without hurting yourself, have fun, and call it a day. If you get hurt doing sports or playing games or doing any leisurely activity, just take a break, recover, and have fun another day.
An acceptance of one's own mediocrity is very zen, but probably not typical of world class athletes.
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My pastor weighed in on this issue...Thought his take was interesting. In his youth, he never made the Olympics, but he did finish in the top five NCAA pole vaulters a couple of times.
He thought she should have competed. The time to step aside was before the Olympics started. Let the alternate gymnast get her mind in the right place for competition. Once you commit, you commit for the team. He referenced Kerri Strug, who couldn't hardly walk, but still completed her vault to help her team.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.
We can only hope
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-rooting-against-americas-olympic-athletes
THE RIGHT IS NOW ROOTING AGAINST AMERICA’S OLYMPIC ATHLETES
Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.
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@copper said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
@doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:
I'm waiting to hear what Donald Trump has to say about this whole business before coming to a conclusion.
We can only hope
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-rooting-against-americas-olympic-athletes
THE RIGHT IS NOW ROOTING AGAINST AMERICA’S OLYMPIC ATHLETES
Star Olympian Simone Biles was branded a public enemy by conservative talkers for dropping out of her role in the gymnastics team finals.
Not by anyone I know.
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Here's a list of those conservative right-wing 'talkers':
Clay Travis
Buck Sexton
Piers Morgan
Amber Athey
John Daniel Davidson
Charlie KirkThese peoples' remarks are truly horrendous. One of them -- don't ask me which one, I can't stand the idea of going back and looking for it -- said Biles brought 'shame to America'. No, you atrocious little insect, it's not Biles bringing shame to America, it's you and your spirit of vileness.
Go here for the deets if you can stand it: https://www.thedailybeast.com/right-wing-media-attacks-weak-simone-biles-selfish-sociopath
