Jon Huntsman speaks on China
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Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@Mik said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
I voted for him. First lever I ever pulled.
@jon-nyc said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
@Mik said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
I voted for him. First lever I ever pulled.
Get off my lawn.
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Yeah, "we" all should be mad as hell at the CCP.
But it's not PC to do so -- so, nothing will happen. People, states, the fed, will be collectively "meh."
There will likely be some changes, good for headlines. Then the deep-seated political rivalry will twist the events in order to blame either party, as if to somehow prove how much blood on his hands.
The CCP is on a long mission. "We" are on no mission at all.
IMHO of course.
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If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
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If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
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Yeah, "we" all should be mad as hell at the CCP.
But it's not PC to do so -- so, nothing will happen. People, states, the fed, will be collectively "meh."
There will likely be some changes, good for headlines. Then the deep-seated political rivalry will twist the events in order to blame either party, as if to somehow prove how much blood on his hands.
The CCP is on a long mission. "We" are on no mission at all.
IMHO of course.
@Rainman said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Yeah, "we" all should be mad as hell at the CCP.
But it's not PC to do so
Why do you think it is not PC to be mad at the CCP?
Is it because Trump praised the CCP's leader repeatedly?
Is it because Trump has cut a trade deal with the CCP?
Is it because Trump owed tens of millions to the state-owned Bank of China?Remember the good old days when Barrack Hussein Obama signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal? Obama was astute enough to exclude China.
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Ax, you missed it.
I do not consider "we" to only be Trump, or Obama, or Nixon.
I'm talking about the average American who was slammed into being unemployed and having their life ruined by the communist party of China. And I don't mean the people of China, I do not hold them responsible for their typical communist mechanism run at the top by a dictator who directly killed countless thousands of people while stumbling around trying to "save face" or whatever the hell that term seems to imply that's so important in Chinese culture.
It's like "We the People" if that helps clarify.But you can keep trying to bring Trump into everything, and prove to many of us that you're right: Trump is evil, Obama is "astute." Sorry, things just are not that simple.
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If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
@Copper said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
Still wouldn’t get you your policy, because the Trumpists would follow his lead and love China too. Even more so than the anti-Trumpists would move against them, if Russia is any guide.
(Look at how Putin’s favorability ratings changed among Democrats and Republicans between 2015 and 2017. The decrease in favorability among Dems was dwarfed by the increase in favorability among Republicans)
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Ax, you missed it.
I do not consider "we" to only be Trump, or Obama, or Nixon.
I'm talking about the average American who was slammed into being unemployed and having their life ruined by the communist party of China. And I don't mean the people of China, I do not hold them responsible for their typical communist mechanism run at the top by a dictator who directly killed countless thousands of people while stumbling around trying to "save face" or whatever the hell that term seems to imply that's so important in Chinese culture.
It's like "We the People" if that helps clarify.But you can keep trying to bring Trump into everything, and prove to many of us that you're right: Trump is evil, Obama is "astute." Sorry, things just are not that simple.
@Rainman said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
I do not consider "we" to only be Trump, or Obama, or Nixon.
I'm talking about the average American who was slammed into being unemployed and having their life ruined by the communist party of China. And I don't mean the people of China, I do not hold them responsible for their typical communist mechanism run at the top by a dictator who directly killed countless thousands of people while stumbling around trying to "save face" or whatever the hell that term seems to imply that's so important in Chinese culture.
It's like "We the People" if that helps clarify.Yea, I understood that by "we" you mean "the average Americans, We the People", and you specifically reference the CCP.
So why do you think it is not PC for "we the average Americans, We the People" to be mad at the CCP?
