Jon Huntsman speaks on China
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wrote on 11 May 2020, 21:23 last edited by
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/jon-huntsman-china-coronavirus-coverup-investigation/
China’s Communist Party fears transparency more than anything else, former U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman said Monday.
Huntsman praised a letter sent Monday by 18 attorneys general demanding a congressional investigation into China’s coverup of the coronavirus outbreak in its early stages, saying on Fox News that such an investigation is necessary.
“Well, I’ll tell you why this letter is such an important one, by these attorneys general. The Chinese have invested a lot in their relationship-building in our nation’s capital. But they’ve also spent a lot of time and resources — listen to me, we have 350,000 Chinese students at our universities across this great country — they have also invested in state-by-state relationships, thinking they can use one against the other,” Huntsman said.
“What is the one thing that the Chinese Communist Party fears more than anything? They like control, they like domestic stability, they control the airwaves for the most part. They hate transparency. The more voices coordinated in this country, even at the state level, that speak out about what happened, and the lying, the cheating, the disinformation, and let’s be very clear about this.
“Early November we saw the first cases of coronavirus in China. It wasn’t until late January that they actually reported the facts to the [World Health Organization]. In the meantime, you probably have 5 million people who left the Hubei province, which is where the epicenter was located, and they went throughout China, they went throughout the world. That was probably the most significant mistake that China has made in recent years, and it’s the reason that we are where we are,” Huntsman said.
Huntsman said what’s needed is “transparency, a coordinated United States, voices in Congress, voices in the states, voices from the business community — because that’s when China really starts to listen, when it affects their economy.”
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wrote on 11 May 2020, 21:28 last edited by Mik 5 Nov 2020, 21:28
Agreed. Taking the pressure off China would be a mistake. I always liked Huntsman.
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wrote on 11 May 2020, 22:47 last edited by jon-nyc 5 Nov 2020, 22:47
Me too. Remember when he tried out some Mandarin at an early 2016 GOP debate? Left me scratching my head. But I like him all the same.
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wrote on 11 May 2020, 23:03 last edited by
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
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wrote on 11 May 2020, 23:06 last edited by
@Mik said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
Even if he was amazed by a grocery store scanner....
(which is not true, btw)
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wrote on 12 May 2020, 00:15 last edited by
@Mik said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
I voted for him. First lever I ever pulled.
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@Mik said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
I voted for him. First lever I ever pulled.
wrote on 12 May 2020, 00:39 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
@Mik said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Our last president who was ambassador to China was a good one.
I voted for him. First lever I ever pulled.
Get off my lawn.
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wrote on 12 May 2020, 01:27 last edited by
Yeah, "we" all should be mad as hell at the CCP.
But it's not PC to do so -- so, nothing will happen. People, states, the fed, will be collectively "meh."
There will likely be some changes, good for headlines. Then the deep-seated political rivalry will twist the events in order to blame either party, as if to somehow prove how much blood on his hands.
The CCP is on a long mission. "We" are on no mission at all.
IMHO of course.
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wrote on 12 May 2020, 01:33 last edited by
Left-leaning pop culture doesn't have it within itself to be opposed to any country other than America.
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wrote on 12 May 2020, 01:45 last edited by
If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
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If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
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Yeah, "we" all should be mad as hell at the CCP.
But it's not PC to do so -- so, nothing will happen. People, states, the fed, will be collectively "meh."
There will likely be some changes, good for headlines. Then the deep-seated political rivalry will twist the events in order to blame either party, as if to somehow prove how much blood on his hands.
The CCP is on a long mission. "We" are on no mission at all.
IMHO of course.
wrote on 12 May 2020, 02:20 last edited by@Rainman said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
Yeah, "we" all should be mad as hell at the CCP.
But it's not PC to do so
Why do you think it is not PC to be mad at the CCP?
Is it because Trump praised the CCP's leader repeatedly?
Is it because Trump has cut a trade deal with the CCP?
Is it because Trump owed tens of millions to the state-owned Bank of China?Remember the good old days when Barrack Hussein Obama signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal? Obama was astute enough to exclude China.
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wrote on 12 May 2020, 03:37 last edited by
Ax, you missed it.
I do not consider "we" to only be Trump, or Obama, or Nixon.
I'm talking about the average American who was slammed into being unemployed and having their life ruined by the communist party of China. And I don't mean the people of China, I do not hold them responsible for their typical communist mechanism run at the top by a dictator who directly killed countless thousands of people while stumbling around trying to "save face" or whatever the hell that term seems to imply that's so important in Chinese culture.
It's like "We the People" if that helps clarify.But you can keep trying to bring Trump into everything, and prove to many of us that you're right: Trump is evil, Obama is "astute." Sorry, things just are not that simple.
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If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
wrote on 12 May 2020, 08:46 last edited by jon-nyc 5 Dec 2020, 08:47@Copper said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
If Mr. Trump decided to love mainland China, what would the loyal opposition think about mainland China?
Still wouldn’t get you your policy, because the Trumpists would follow his lead and love China too. Even more so than the anti-Trumpists would move against them, if Russia is any guide.
(Look at how Putin’s favorability ratings changed among Democrats and Republicans between 2015 and 2017. The decrease in favorability among Dems was dwarfed by the increase in favorability among Republicans)
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Ax, you missed it.
I do not consider "we" to only be Trump, or Obama, or Nixon.
I'm talking about the average American who was slammed into being unemployed and having their life ruined by the communist party of China. And I don't mean the people of China, I do not hold them responsible for their typical communist mechanism run at the top by a dictator who directly killed countless thousands of people while stumbling around trying to "save face" or whatever the hell that term seems to imply that's so important in Chinese culture.
It's like "We the People" if that helps clarify.But you can keep trying to bring Trump into everything, and prove to many of us that you're right: Trump is evil, Obama is "astute." Sorry, things just are not that simple.
wrote on 12 May 2020, 16:51 last edited by@Rainman said in Jon Huntsman speaks on China:
I do not consider "we" to only be Trump, or Obama, or Nixon.
I'm talking about the average American who was slammed into being unemployed and having their life ruined by the communist party of China. And I don't mean the people of China, I do not hold them responsible for their typical communist mechanism run at the top by a dictator who directly killed countless thousands of people while stumbling around trying to "save face" or whatever the hell that term seems to imply that's so important in Chinese culture.
It's like "We the People" if that helps clarify.Yea, I understood that by "we" you mean "the average Americans, We the People", and you specifically reference the CCP.
So why do you think it is not PC for "we the average Americans, We the People" to be mad at the CCP?