This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.

[George K]

https://www.boredpanda.com/different-perspective-telephoto-lens-vs-wide-angle-philip-davali-olafur-steinar-ry/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=BPFacebook&fbclid=IwAR0SsMF2z2zzhqtmVrQplR4pU7jQ7nCKa4y03KpWihLvDB2_XLkkZCccDYU

Telephoto:

Wide Angle:

More examples at the link.

[Aqua Letifer]

That's not even manipulation, that's just with lenses. Hell photo #2 would be even more stark if it was also shot with the same telephoto as #1, just at 90 degrees from the original POV.

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:

That's not even manipulation, that's just with lenses. Hell photo #2 would be even more stark if it was also shot with the same telephoto as #1, just at 90 degrees from the original POV.

Of course.

My point was that if you published picture #1 on your website, it would convey a very different message than had you published picture #2.

And...using different lenses to show a picture is sure as hell "manipulation" if you're trying to tell a story.

[Aqua Letifer]

Absolutely it would convey an entirely different message.

But it is an it isn't "manipulation." Yes, you can use many tools to your advantage to tell whatever story you want, but you can't not do that.

There is absolutely no way to depict a perfectly true representation of reality with a photograph. It's impossible. Photography is and has always been a creative representation of reality.

[jon-nyc]

George’s point is real. If the story is ‘people aren’t practicing social distancing’ and you do the telephoto version you’re manipulating it.

(Like several beach photos appear to have done)

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:

Absolutely it would convey an entirely different message.

But it is an it isn't "manipulation." Yes, you can use many tools to your advantage to tell whatever story you want, but you can't not do that.

I can't find it at the moment, but there are photos of beach openings that are exactly like that. The accompanying stories are all about how people are being irresponsible, showing photos similar to the first photo in each series.

However, the truth shows something more similar to photo number two.

If you call yourself a "news" organization, at least have the honesty to accurately depict the truth.

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:

@Aqua-Letifer said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:
If you call yourself a "news" organization, at least have the honesty to accurately depict the truth.

Dude we're at least two decades beyond that now.

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:

Dude we're at least two decades beyond that now.

Yeah, at least two decades:

[Aqua Letifer]

Older.

[taiwan_girl]

Aqua, I am familiar with the Stalin picture, but what is the picture you post from?

[Aqua Letifer]

@taiwan_girl said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:

Aqua, I am familiar with the Stalin picture, but what is the picture you post from?

The Civil War. Among other things, the rifle was moved by the photographer before he took that photo.

[Klaus]

I think some new standards for press photography would be good.

They should use camera chips that digitally sign an image such that one can detect Photoshop and the like. These signatures should be verifiable for every viewer of an image.

There should be a database of public photographs that can be queried by location and time, such that one can view many different photos of the same event at the same time.

There'd still be many ways to manipulate images, but it would become a little harder.

[Doctor Phibes]

We need an official body to verify this sort of thing, since clearly the press can't be trusted. They could call it the Dept. of Truth.

[Loki]

@Doctor-Phibes said in This is how easy it is to manipulate photos.:

We need an official body to verify this sort of thing, since clearly the press can't be trusted. They could call it the Dept. of Truth.

The other George would tell you it’s the Ministry of Truth.

[Doctor Phibes]

I don't think you'd want that. I know how you chaps like to think you've broken away from blighty.

[Copper]

Sure, add the new image standards for truth to the current truth standards.