‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology

[jon-nyc]

@mark said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

https://insights.dice.com/2020/07/17/whitelist-blacklist-the-new-debate-over-security-terminology/

I think it is correct to purge them from IT terminology.

I am far from being a radical "woke" person. But some things just hit the nail on the head. White = GOOD! Black = BAD!

Permit and Deny would be far better choices, IMO.

I could have written this post.

[LuFins Dad]

Except the etymology of the phrase blacklist goes back to the 1600’s and has nothing to do with race. It’s like saying we shouldn’t call it a red light because it might be offensive to Native Americans.

[Mik]

Yes. In other words it's just plain down on the farm stupid. We should not pander to foolishness.

[LuFins Dad]

@mik said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

Yes. In other words it's just plain down on the farm stupid. We should not pander to foolishness.

Seems black and white to me…

[jon-nyc]

I'm ok with this one.

Banning master bedroom? Nope.

Banning master/slave (process, relay, etc) Nope.

Banning 'niggardly'? Nope.

But this one doesn't bother me. And yes I get the etymology point.

[Copper]

The bad guys wear black hats

The good guys wear white hats

You can't surgically remove one narrow little use of the words

There are unforeseen circumstances.

[George K]

Don't get me started on "male" and "female" connectors.

[Axtremus]

Or that testing "positive" is bad but testing "negative" is good.

[Loki]

I always new gray market was better.

0’s and 1’s need to be eliminated too!

[Mik]

Yes. It makes the zeros feel somehow less.

[Catseye3]

@mik said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

And it doesn’t have anything to do with race unless you want it to.

Not to mention, so-called black people aren't even black. Only a very tiny fraction (I think) have truly black skin; the rest have skin that varies in color from dark chocolate to cafe au lait.

So what is it we're denigrating, exactly?

[Loki]

@catseye3 said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

@mik said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

And it doesn’t have anything to do with race unless you want it to.

Not to mention, so-called black people aren't even black. Only a very tiny fraction (I think) have truly black skin; the rest have skin that varies in color from dark chocolate to cafe au lait.

So what is it we're denigrating, exactly?

I thought I knew until Lin Miranda was thrown under the bus for not using the right shading.

[LuFins Dad]

@george-k said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

Don't get me started on "male" and "female" connectors.

All kinds of new adapters today…

[Copper]

@lufins-dad said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

@george-k said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

Don't get me started on "male" and "female" connectors.

All kinds of new adapters today…

That reminds me of the Apollo Soyuz mission

I remember that they had to jump through hoops to make sure the mating adapter used to dock the spacecraft was neither male nor female. Because it would have been a slight to have one country or the other be the female.