‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology

[Copper]

Whenever we had to play at Ronan field or Roberts field in Boston we knew we were going to have rocks thrown at our car.

There were a few intersections in Roxbury where they threw rocks at your car based on skin color.

It was my privilege to try to avoid the rocks. Usually if you just keep moving you were ok.

[jon-nyc]

@mark said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

https://insights.dice.com/2020/07/17/whitelist-blacklist-the-new-debate-over-security-terminology/

I think it is correct to purge them from IT terminology.

I am far from being a radical "woke" person. But some things just hit the nail on the head. White = GOOD! Black = BAD!

Permit and Deny would be far better choices, IMO.

I could have written this post.

[LuFins Dad]

Except the etymology of the phrase blacklist goes back to the 1600’s and has nothing to do with race. It’s like saying we shouldn’t call it a red light because it might be offensive to Native Americans.

[Mik]

Yes. In other words it's just plain down on the farm stupid. We should not pander to foolishness.

[LuFins Dad]

@mik said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

Yes. In other words it's just plain down on the farm stupid. We should not pander to foolishness.

Seems black and white to me…

[jon-nyc]

I'm ok with this one.

Banning master bedroom? Nope.

Banning master/slave (process, relay, etc) Nope.

Banning 'niggardly'? Nope.

But this one doesn't bother me. And yes I get the etymology point.

[Copper]

The bad guys wear black hats

The good guys wear white hats

You can't surgically remove one narrow little use of the words

There are unforeseen circumstances.

[George K]

Don't get me started on "male" and "female" connectors.

[Axtremus]

Or that testing "positive" is bad but testing "negative" is good.

[Loki]

I always new gray market was better.

0’s and 1’s need to be eliminated too!

[Mik]

Yes. It makes the zeros feel somehow less.

[Catseye3]

@mik said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

And it doesn’t have anything to do with race unless you want it to.

Not to mention, so-called black people aren't even black. Only a very tiny fraction (I think) have truly black skin; the rest have skin that varies in color from dark chocolate to cafe au lait.

So what is it we're denigrating, exactly?

[Loki]

@catseye3 said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

@mik said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

And it doesn’t have anything to do with race unless you want it to.

Not to mention, so-called black people aren't even black. Only a very tiny fraction (I think) have truly black skin; the rest have skin that varies in color from dark chocolate to cafe au lait.

So what is it we're denigrating, exactly?

I thought I knew until Lin Miranda was thrown under the bus for not using the right shading.

[LuFins Dad]

@george-k said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

Don't get me started on "male" and "female" connectors.

All kinds of new adapters today…

[Copper]

@lufins-dad said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

@george-k said in ‘Whitelist,’ ‘Blacklist’: The New Debate Over Security Terminology:

Don't get me started on "male" and "female" connectors.

All kinds of new adapters today…

That reminds me of the Apollo Soyuz mission

I remember that they had to jump through hoops to make sure the mating adapter used to dock the spacecraft was neither male nor female. Because it would have been a slight to have one country or the other be the female.