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  • Fired

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  • Death Cult

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  • Is the Newsom recall constitutional?

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    George KG

    @jolly said in Is the Newsom recall constitutional?:

    It's their system. If Californians don't like it, they should change it.

    I agree, the fact that these guys think it's "unfair" is a matter for the citizens and the courts.

    But, along those lines, thinking about the constitutionality of not having the majority-winning candidate win, there's this:

    If California’s Recall Is Illegal, So Was Jon Ossoff’s Election in Georgia

    One academic cries ‘unconstitutional,’ but we won’t hold our breath for a similar pronouncement over Georgia’s peculiar system.

    In the New York Times, Professor Erwin Chemerinsky argues that California’s recall system is not merely a bad idea, it’s illegal. “The most basic principles of democracy,” Chemerinsky writes,"are that the candidate who gets the most votes is elected and that every voter gets an equal say in an election’s outcome. The California system for voting in a recall election violates these principles and should be declared unconstitutional."

    Specifically, Chemerinsky notes that California employs a two-step system — in which the first vote is to recall or not recall, and the second is to choose a replacement — and contends that this creates a problem, because "by conducting the recall election in this way, Mr. Newsom can receive far more votes than any other candidate but still be removed from office. Many focus on how unfair this structure is to the governor, but consider instead how unfair it is to the voters who support him."

    Like California, the state of Georgia also employs a two-step process. In Georgia, though, that system applies to all elections, holding that if a candidate in the first round doesn’t acquire 50 percent of the total vote, the two best-performing candidates must proceed to a runoff. Straight off the bat, this violates Chemerinsky’s standard that if a candidate “is favored by a plurality of the voters, but someone else is elected, then his voters are denied equal protection.” In November 2020, David Perdue received 2,462,617 votes, while the runner-up, Jon Ossoff, received 2,374,519. In almost any other state, Perdue would have been declared the winner. In Georgia, he was not. Chemerinsky writes that, in California, a candidate can “receive far more votes than any other candidate but still be removed from office.” Well, this is what happened to David Perdue. Is that unconstitutional, too?

    One can’t even play games by comparing the numbers in aggregate. In the second step in Georgia — the recall election — Perdue received fewer votes than Ossoff. On aggregate, though, Perdue still came out ahead. If we combine the elections, Perdue got 4,677,596 votes while Ossoff got 4,644,442. Because the votes were separate, this isn’t supposed to matter. But if Chemerinsky is correct that “the most basic principles of democracy are that the candidate who gets the most votes is elected,” that second election should never have been held in the first place. Indeed, it should be struck down as “unfair . . . to the voters who support” Perdue. And if it should have been held — if, that is, we are supposed to compare the combined tallies from the first and second steps, as Chemerinsky does in order to draw his conclusion — then Perdue was the clear winner of the race. Unconstitutional, right?

  • Legality of Vaccine Mandates

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    George KG

    Actually, it wasn't SCOTUS, but Justice Barrett:

    Barrett got to rule solo on this one because she’s the “circuit justice” for the Seventh Circuit, which encompasses Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. (Each justice on the Court is assigned at least one circuit.) A circuit justice who receives an emergency appeal can either rule on it herself or refer it for consideration by the entire Court. What made this one an emergency is the looming start of the school year. Classes at Indiana University begin in 11 days so the student plaintiffs in the case needed to know quickly whether they had a right to attend classes in person despite being unvaccinated.

  • I gotta poop

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    markM

    😆

  • Identity theft.... asking for a friend

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    HoraceH

    Thanks. We'll be monitoring it carefully going forward. Apparently filing fake tax returns to get fraudulent refunds is a thing. You're supposed to file early to protect against it. I wonder how easy that would be, given the info these scammers now have? I'm not worried about credit cards or bank accounts now that the credit reporting is frozen.

  • COVID Forecast mapping from Mayo

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    @89th said in COVID Forecast mapping from Mayo:

    Looks like we might get a whopping 35 cases per 100,000 citizens soon.

    26 here.

    Thanks, Brenda. It's good to know where we're at.

  • Psaki: "Trump told people to inject poison."

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    JollyJ

    We're talking vaccine hesitation. The twenty somethings ain't who I'm worried about...

  • Hungry Hounds

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    JollyJ

    @aqua-letifer said in Hungry Hounds:

    @jolly said in Hungry Hounds:

    @aqua-letifer said in Hungry Hounds:

    @jolly said in Hungry Hounds:

    I've got a construction crew to feed today

    What's the project?

    End of project. New ceiling on church and parsonage. New roof on both. New floor in sanctuary. New lights in sanctuary.

    Word. Crazy work to do in this summer! We're hitting the triple digits today most likely so I can only imagine what it's like down there.

    For roof work (they did that a month ago) you start at daylight and you can work a crew until about noon. Then, they knock off for a 30 minute lunch (nobody eats much in the heat) and you pick up a bit before going home. Gatorade in the water cooler is a must. It will buy you two hours of productive work you wouldn't otherwise get.

    Besides, starting in the afternoon, your shoe soles will melt and stick to the roof...

  • New Treatment Option

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    JollyJ

    @loki said in New Treatment Option:

    @lufins-dad said in New Treatment Option:

    @loki said in New Treatment Option:

    @lufins-dad said in New Treatment Option:

    $400 paid as needed? I’ve paid more than that for less critical treatments…

    Would a vaccine hesitant person prefer monoclonal antibodies to a vaccine? I have no idea. Of course we need monoclonal antibodies for breakthrough cases.

    Why are you making this about vaccines? There are vaccinated people still getting severe COVID and a small number still dying…This treatment is a good thing for everyone.

    There has been a debate about treatment as preferential to vaccines. I think it is inbounds.

    Nah, not really. You treat the patient, not the politics.

    Antibody therapy works, especially well for some people. Have to do it early. On an outpatient basis, it's not hideously expensive and it can save you a bed. A bed that's badly needed in some cases. In my little rural neck of the woods we've had calls from Texas and Arkansas today, hunting beds for COVID patients.

    Healthcare is a finite commodity. Especially with COVID, since your patient/nurse ratio cannot exceed 3:1. In a regular Med/Surg unit, you can stretch that ratio up to 6 or 7 per nurse, if you have nursing aides and LPN's to shoulder some of the load, but COVID is a different critter, almost like ICU in some respects.

  • RIP Dusty Hill

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    George KG

    Link to video

  • "On top of the world"

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    89th8

    Could’ve used a blue screen.

    Still, that was cool and knee-weakening.

  • I heart NY

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    Aqua LetiferA

    @george-k said in I heart NY:

    What is "Titty Money?"

    (I don't really care what "Shoe Money" is)

    A friend of mine and I are collectors of ideal shorthand questions to learn something about someone, where it's not even their answer but their reaction tells you all you need to know.

    For example, in order to determine both (1) whether or not someone's even familiar with D&D and (2) whether they're old school or on the Critical Role bandwagon is just simply to ask "5e?" It'll tell you everything you need to know.

    "What's titty money" is about the best I can possibly think of to determine whether someone's ever worked basic retail.

  • The Algorithm

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    George KG

    @klaus said in The Algorithm:

    I think your headline is misleading.

    The headline is from the article, not me.

    The title of the thread is about the algorithm in the article.

    What's misleading?

    In this case, the real problem is not the algorithm but this:

    a NarxCare score is not meant to supplant a doctor’s diagnosis. But physicians ignore these numbers at their peril.

    Yes. I know of at least two docs whose practice has been investigated for ignoring similar guidelines.

    Obey these numbers or get investigated.

  • Equitable Outcomes

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    HoraceH

    We've gotta stop giving grades and diplomas. You just get your "high school diploma" when you reach age 18. GEDs can still be taken if you want it earlier. College entrance exams will still be given. Done and done.

  • Papers, please?

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    @doctor-phibes said in Papers, please?:

    Maybe they could use the vaccination ID as voter ID 🤣

    <Mik mode on> I don’t care who you are that was funny<mik mode off>

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    @aqua-letifer said in They're not going to sell many of these in England....:

    @doctor-phibes said in They're not going to sell many of these in England....:

    Modern Doctor Who isn't the same show at all.

    The one with Peter Capaldi wasn't campy. In my opinion he was the best Doctor of all.

    Can you just start watching those cold, or do you have to watch the entire back-log as a prerequisite?

    You don't have to watch the whole thing, but it wouldn't hurt to watch the last couple of the previous incarnation. The long story arc is very much secondary to individual episodes, and the main villain (Missy) in the Capaldi series wasn't in the Matt Smith series at all. The initial companion, Clara, crosses between the two.

  • Let's add 100K cops on the streets ...

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    LarryL

    What a sheep.... You'd believe anything a democrat said. Joe Biden didn't create the COPS program, first of all. Secondly, the COPS program is just one example out of many where Biden used to support things that were good for the country but now supports the exact opposite. In the mid 90s he also supported the Constituion, now he doesn't.

    But none of that matters to a die hard koolaid drinker like you, huh.....

  • No suits available

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    Aqua LetiferA

    @doctor-phibes said in No suits available:

    My guess is they can't get the powerful video cards they'll need to fake the moon landings convincingly.

    Someone needs to update their Nuke software!

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    @kluurs said in Hey Phibes, still trying to figure out what CRT is?:

    CRT is in the past tense. No one uses Cathode Ray Tubes these days. First thing that comes to mind when I see those initials.

    BTW, BLM stands for Bureau of Land Management.

    Thank you! Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this.