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Good breakdown here.

It would do a lot of good if this one got a real investigation and a prosecution if warranted. Which it looks like it is.

looks like we're headed for a government shutdown over this stuff. I guess that serves somebody's purposes.

It’s difficult to imagine why he would get paid for it beyond spectacle. Unless he is delivering a pizza to a very wealthy person who is starving on top of the building.

@89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

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@89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

Sorry, you know me.

Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

It’s an interesting contrast with your weepiness about all the Capitol police suicides you were familiar with, as a result of the impossibility of living through Jan 6. As you like to note, when the political poles are reversed, attitudes change.

What was the tally of Capitol police officers who killed themselves due to the weight of living through Jan 6 again? As I recall, you kept close count. It could be up to like a thousand by now. I wouldn’t trade a single one of those magnificent heroes for a thousand fascist ICE officers. I’ll tell you that.

@89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please. But hey you know 10 Capitol police who committed suicide because they were employed to quell a riot. So you know. You really know.

@Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

I do realize that he's an outlier, and he doesn't care about that.

I don't really buy it. The emotional perspective is so strong. You will see what you want to see, and not see what you don't want to see in previous administrations.

And you chose to just hand wave his writings without putting them into your own words. Try it.

You hand wave law that is far more ambiguous than you want the board to believe. You are not a legal expert, and furthermore, legal experts differ constantly. There is no hard line as you would have people believe.

So she was solving a problem that needed to be solved, and any solution would present frustrating complications. Ok, I can see that.

(My own opinion on Ashley Babbit is FAFO.)

No I'm just really confident that you were satisfied by the Ashley Babbit shooting. I know the others are more ambiguous to you, in fact you probably agree with me on the rest of them.

Green cards. It remains to be seen whether they really want to live here, but we are giving the situation a chance. My wife is extraordinarily devoted to her parents, and they to her. But to ask them to live here is big.

@jon-nyc said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

It was one of the ‘fuck you, bitch’ shots that killed her.

The "bitch" comment wasn't even from the shooter, last I heard. But yes it's long been stipulated that there were shots from the side of the car, after the first from the front. Any one of them may have stochastically entered her head. You are really interestingly precious about this situation that, if the politics were reversed, you'd just be silently happy about. As you were with Ashley Babbit.

It's been a done deal, since the existential threat narrative took hold in the general population, that what cheating can happen, will happen. You really can't have it both ways. Maybe look in the mirror if you were an existential threat type.

My step parents are going to have their consulate interview in Guangzhou in March. It's been a 2 year process.

I have a normal level of sympathy for the perspective that illegals do a great deal of the work in this country. But enforcing the law regarding their presence hardly equates to a seething hatred of the constitution. Which feels gross to even type, it's just so inflammatory and idiotic.

Yes she is objectively remarkable. But I thought you hated Epic.