@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Hilary turned over the servers and didn’t hold anything back and lie about it.
Bullshit. She deleted tens of thousands of emails before they were turned over. Copies of communications devices were destroyed with hammers. With hammers.
"She didn't lie about it."
Oh my sides.
I need more ((c )heap) Scotch.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:
@Horace you too will buy your lunch at a gas station store!
Just don't eat the gas station sushi, particularly in Texas.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
We don't know what Trump did or didn't do, and we don't know how much he's being hiding.
IF he's hiding (giving the benefit of the doubt, LOL). But your point stands. We just don't know - it hasn't even been a week.
Pointing out that there's a discrepancy in how people are treated is interesting, but it's not a very good legal defence.
No, it's not. and it won't wash in court, to be sure, if it ever gets there. With luck a friendly attorney general will prevent that...
But you can't say that there is such a discrepancy while, in the same breath, alleging, as Garland did, that "no one is above the law." If some are above the law, then everyone is above the law.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Both of them have lived pretty much their entire lives looking down on the little people, and that playing by the rules is something for lesser mortals.
Anybody naive enough to think otherwise deserves what they get.
Absolutely. The problem is, as French points out, is why should one not deserve what they get and the other does?
As @jon-nyc points out, we don't know enough, yet, about what was alleged, what allegedly secret documents were in his possession, and whether anything not under the warrant may have been seized.
@Horace said in Bad timing:
They have no time limit in the earnest money contract.
You need(ed) a better lawyer.
@jon-nyc , I am ashamed to admit it, I've never seen that movie.
Another not Trump fan, David French says, be consistent.
Trump lacks any real excuse for his behavior for retaining classified information, but Clinton had no excuse either. Remember, she used a private server to discuss matters that were classified at the highest levels, and she was seasoned enough to know exactly what she was doing.
Trump’s defense is as weak as Hillary’s. His team is reportedly claiming that he had a “standing order” to declassify all documents that he took to Mar-a-Lago, but as Philip Klein notes in National Review, this argument is “patently absurd”:
The bottom line is deeply disheartening. Two of the most powerful and prominent politicians in the United States engaged in conduct that virtually any other American would be prosecuted for. They have placed the system under great strain, and the system is buckling.
It remains to be seen whether Donald Trump’s conduct was so much worse than Hillary Clinton’s that prosecution is both legal and just. Indeed the entire issue may be so fraught with peril that the DOJ may decide to merely seize the documents without any further legal proceedings.
But if Trump did break the law and is not prosecuted, we can look back at a pivotal moment in history and know why. On July 5, 2016, the FBI set an extraordinary standard for prosecuting powerful people for mishandling our nation’s most precious secrets, and we shouldn’t change that standard for Donald Trump.
@Horace said in Bad timing:
They think they will be done by November,
Whoa...
They think...LOL.
Every time I've bought/sold a place, it's been 90 days, and you're right on the cusp of that.
Hope it works out for you, and gratz!
@Mik said in Cars weaponized - again:
Blew right through them. Wow.
Apparently, this is near a LGBTQ (did I get all the letters?) nightclub on the south side. I don't know if it was targeted or not, but...GFC.
@Horace said in Bad timing:
I figure seeing how awesome the current owner is, was the clincher for them.
That's our @Horace - humble as ever.
Hope it works out for you.
Do you have a place in Texas lined up? Will the timing work for getting out/getting in? Every time we moved, that was a major PITA.
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Let’s wait.
You know I'm no Trump fan. Simply looking at what the rights of the accused are, and wondering if he has a case here.
Do I put it beyond him to have (c )lassified materials in his possession? Absolutely not.
Was it "poor judgment" or actually an attempt to commit a crime?
No idea.
Six, two, and even the crime-fraud exception applies here.
I'm into my first (cheap) Scotch of the day...please explain?
@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Is he fishing? There are documents out of federal custody that shouldn't be. The feds want them back.
Yeah, IF they belong in federal custody. That's the allegation by the DOJ.
At least he didn't smash them with a hammer. Only flushed them down a toilet (low-tech guy, you know).
If these are documents that do not belong to Trump once he has left office, then how would attorney-client privilege even apply?
Trump is claiming that OTHER documents, which belong under attorney-client privilege were seized. I don't know if that's true, of course, because Trump, but his demand for a special master is reasonable.
@jon-nyc you have a problem with attorney-client privilege?
As I said, an impartial special master is commonly appointed to these situations to see what qualifies for A-C priv and what does not.
Why are you fishing, AG Garland?
@jon-nyc said in The Dark or Inappropriate Humor Thread:
What’s the difference between weed and pussy?
If you smell the weed from across the room, it’s good.
I consider myself lucky that I hadn't poured my first (cheap) Scotch of the evening.
So, dressage…
“Dressage,” pronounced “Dress-AAJH,” means “training,” or “horsemanship.” The idea was to develop the best-trained, most responsive horse/rider combination, in the tradition of the Spanish vaquero. Having originated in the use of the horse as a tool of warfare. One needed a horse that responded to the most subtle cues, responding to what the rider thinks so that he can concentrate on the task at hand - killing someone.
That school of riding evolved to a competition in which long-strided, large horses are trained to go through a series of maneuvers in an enclosed 20 by 60 meter arena. The goal in the competition was to be “one” with the horse, with the horse responding to the most subtle of cues.
A dressage saddle looks a bit like a close-contact jumping saddle, but there are notable differences. First of all the flaps, or fenders, are much longer. This allows the rider to ride with a longer stirrup than in a jumping position, which, for the sake of balance, requires a short stirrup. Think of how a jockey rides. Stirrups are ridiculously short, and the jockey spends more time standing in the stirrups than sitting on the saddle.
The other major difference is the higher cantle, or back part of the saddle. This allows the rider to have a deeper “seat.”
Yeah, saddles are expensive.
Along with the longer-legged style of riding, his legs are in contact with the horse almost constantly. It’s almost like they’re wrapped around the horse. Because of this, the horse is trained to respond to leg signals as well as rein signals. This style has been quite the transition for me, and using my legs to cue the horse has been a challenge, not only because of the difference in style, but also because of the inherent weakness of muscle groups that I’ve never used.
If you watch any dressage competitions, you’ll see how the rider communicates with the horse via the most subtle of cues. It’s almost as though when you think it, the horse does it.
This is a pretty good example. Note how at about 1:30, the horse, at a trot, begins to extend his stride, not increasing the speed of steps, but greatly increasing his stride.
Link to videoNote how the rider looks like she’s glued to the saddle.
Then, at about 4:30, at the canter, the same thing happens. She asks the horse to extend his stride…and off they go.
At 5:00 - the horse does “flying lead changes.” Imagine you’re skipping, and you lead with your right foot. That’s what a canter is. The horse CHANGES the foot with which he’s leading the “skip” with every other stride. Remarkable.
But, at my level, with Opal, I’m just trying to get her to trot around the arena without breaking down to a walk, LOL.
@Catseye3 supposedly, because most warriors wore their sword on the left. Mounting from the horse's left means you don't swing the sword over the horse.
Horse really DGAF, but it's become tradition. I could mount Simon from either side.
Today's trivia...
Why do you mount a horse from its left side?
