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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    The Biden administration's nominee supported tree-spiking.

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/559466-obama-land-management-chief-says-biden-nominee-should-withdraw-over?rl=1

    Robert Abbey, who served as the first head of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) under former President Obama, has called on President Biden’s nominee for the position to withdraw from consideration over her involvement in a 1980s “tree-spiking” action intended to sabotage logging.

    Abbey, who served as BLM director from 2009 to 2012, told E&E News that he had initially supported Tracy Stone-Manning’s nomination. But said he is “now one of the people who believe that she should withdraw her name from further consideration for the BLM director position."

    Stone-Manning did not personally participate in the tree-spiking incident but has said that as a graduate student she sent a letter warning of the tree-spiking, written by one of the participants, to Forest Service officials. She would later testify against two suspects in 1993 in exchange for immunity.

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    "As a 30-year BLM career employee, I don't take her actions lightly, nor should anyone else," Abbey said. "If Stone-Manning participated in any aspect of planning, implementation or cover-up in the spiking of trees, then she should not be confirmed."

    Reached for comment, Abbey referred The Hill to his comments to E&E.

    Tree-spiking is a practice in which spikes are driven into trees to create potential damage to logging equipment.

    Stone-Manning testified in 1993 that she sent the letter “because I wanted people to know that those trees were spiked. I didn’t want anybody getting hurt as a result of trees being spiked.”

    “This letter is being sent to notify you that the Post Office Sale has been spiked heavily. The reasoning for this action is that this piece of land is very special to the earth. The sales were marked so that no workers would be injured and so that you assholes know they are spiked,” the letter stated. “You bastards go in there anyway and a lot of people could get hurt.”

    Senate Energy Committee ranking member John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) has said Stone-Manning’s involvement “disqualifies” her from the position. Sen. John Tester (D-Mont.), Stone-Manning’s former boss, has defended her after the disclosure, calling criticism of her a "lot of crap [that] is not correct.”

    Why does the Biden administration nominate terrorists to the government?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      She needs to step down and I suspect she will.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        Another BLM terrorist.

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          She needs to step down and I suspect she will.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

          She needs to step down and I suspect she will.

          Of course.

          I doubt she will, however.

          The bigger question is "How did she ever get nominated?"

          That says a lot about the Biden/Harris administration.

          Who's driving this bus anyway?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Another BLM terrorist.

            jon-nycJ Offline
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            @lufins-dad said in Tree-spiker:

            Another BLM terrorist.

            Hahahaha

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • HoraceH Offline
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              I’ll bet she doesn’t know how to use a toilet.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @lufins-dad said in Tree-spiker:

                Another BLM terrorist.

                Hahahaha

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                @lufins-dad said in Tree-spiker:

                Another BLM terrorist.

                Hahahaha

                I made a bumper sticker design awhile back with the fist and the "BLM" stuff in the right font but it said Bureau of Land Management instead.

                Please love yourself.

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                  @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                  I doubt she will, however.

                  I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                    I doubt she will, however.

                    I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                    @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                    I doubt she will, however.

                    I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                    Not yet: Biden’s Monkeywrencher

                    “P.S. You bastards go in there anyway and a lot of people could get hurt.”

                    Thus reads a note sent in 1989 to the U.S. Forest Service by Tracy Stone-Manning, now President Biden’s nominee to run the Bureau of Land Management.

                    Presidents are generally entitled to personnel picks. An exception might be a nominee who ran with eco-terrorists—who collaborated with Earth First! saboteurs, known for spiking trees to halt timber sales, and who misled senators about the nature of her involvement.

                    Mr. Biden put Ms. Stone-Manning forward in April, and she isn’t new to politics. The environmental radical has worked for Sen. Jon Tester and former Gov. Steve Bullock of Montana, and more recently at the National Wildlife Federation. She’s spent a lifetime protesting fossil-fuel production, logging, mining and public access to federal land.

                    The Earth First! story also isn’t new, though over the years Ms. Stone-Manning crafted a heroic version. In that tale, told in various forums over the years, she was an innocent graduate student at the University of Montana in Missoula. In 1989, a “frankly, frightening” and “disturbed person” from Earth First! asked her to mail a warning letter about tree spiking, which is designed to kill or maim loggers and mill workers. She agreed, because “she didn’t want anybody getting hurt.” In 1993 she nobly testified against the spikers, helping send two to prison. A Biden official said that Ms. Stone-Manning has always been “honest and transparent” about her history.

                    Hardly. Public documents obtained by the Journal tell the real story. According to that 1993 court transcript, Ms. Stone-Manning arrived in Missoula in 1988 and immediately moved into a house occupied by Earth First! members. This was the height of the wilderness wars, and Earth First! had by the mid-1980s defined itself as the tip of the fanatical spear. Its modus operandi was violence and terror, or what it called “monkeywrenching”—spectacular arsons, equipment destruction, and most notably the deadly practice of tree spiking.

                    She acknowledged in testimony that she helped edit an Earth First! newsletter. One 1989 edition highlighted an article entitled “Who Are the Real Terrorists?” It praises “the fine art of tree spiking.” In testimony, Ms. Stone-Manning described the men who were ultimately convicted of spiking as co-inhabitants of her house as well as “friends.”

                    One, John Blount (later convicted), in the spring of 1989 asked her to send a letter to the Forest Service. The letter explained that “five hundred pounds of spikes measuring 8 to 10 inches” had been laced through Idaho trees, and warned that anyone seeking to fell them would get “hurt.” Rather than alert authorities, Ms. Stone-Manning rented a typewriter and retyped it, explaining in a later interview that she worried her “fingerprints were all over the original.” She mailed it.

                    The Missoulian reported that in fall 1989 “prosecutors subpoenaed seven Missoula residents, including Stone-Manning, to appear before a grand jury to provide physical evidence, including handwriting and hair samples.” Yet a former federal law-enforcement agent who investigated the 1989 spiking recently told E&E news she stonewalled the investigation, setting it back years. According to the article, only after Mr. Blount’s common-law wife ratted him out was Ms. Stone-Manning’s role exposed, and then she traded testimony for immunity. “The only reasons that Tracy Stone-Manning became a cooperator, if you want to call it that, is because she was caught,” the former agent told E&E.

                    So here’s the real story: The Biden nominee, as an adult, joined an organization that openly perpetrated violence—tactics that led to real harm, as with a California sawmill worker whose face was ravaged in 1987 when a blade shattered on a spike. Ms. Stone-Manning was made aware of an act of eco-terrorism, aided the perpetrators, and hid the crime. Why would Mr. Biden reward this behavior by putting her in charge of 247 million acres of public land?

                    The “honest and transparent” Ms. Stone-Manning also wasn’t straight in her Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee questionnaire. She at one point declared that she had “never been the target of [a federal] investigation.” This despite complaining in a 1990 Spokesman-Review article about being targeted in the FBI probe, as well as giving a 1993 interview to the Missoulian, which reported: “Stone-Manning said she could have been charged with conspiracy” if not for her immunity deal. (The BLM didn’t respond to a request for comment from Ms. Stone-Manning.)

                    Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, ranking member of the Energy Committee, is leading Republicans in demanding the withdrawal of her nomination, stating that she was “intentionally trying to deceive” the committee. The nominee has proved too much even for Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski. And Barack Obama’s first BLM director, Bob Abbey, last month said her history “should disqualify her” from the job.

                    The Biden team is so far sticking by its monkeywrencher, so the question will be decided by Senate Democrats, including Energy Committee Chairman Joe Manchin. It’s bad enough to rubber-stamp radicals. There should be no room in the federal government for those who dabbled with terrorists.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                      I doubt she will, however.

                      I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                      @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                      I doubt she will, however.

                      I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                      Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        Brilliant.

                        The Brad

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          The apotheosis of the progressive white female coming to power over things about which they feel all the right feelings.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                            @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                            I doubt she will, however.

                            I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                            Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                            @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                            @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                            I doubt she will, however.

                            I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                            Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                            Wherein jon updates his priors about just how wacky the mainstream leftist political culture is.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              This will bite them in 2022 and 2024.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Hope so.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                                  @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                  I doubt she will, however.

                                  I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                                  Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                                  Wherein jon updates his priors about just how wacky the mainstream leftist political culture is.

                                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  @horace said in Tree-spiker:

                                  @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                                  @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                  I doubt she will, however.

                                  I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                                  Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                                  Wherein jon updates his priors about just how far Manchin will go to be a 'team player'.

                                  FIFY, NNTTM.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    This will bite them in 2022 and 2024.

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                                    @mik said in Tree-spiker:

                                    This will bite them in 2022 and 2024.

                                    The number of people that don't directly interact with the bureau that will know her name in 2022 or 24 might number in the hundreds nationwide.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Doesn't BLM award the drilling leases on public land?

                                      If so, there may be more than a few hundred who care.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @horace said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                        I doubt she will, however.

                                        I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                                        Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                                        Wherein jon updates his priors about just how far Manchin will go to be a 'team player'.

                                        FIFY, NNTTM.

                                        HoraceH Offline
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @horace said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Tree-spiker:

                                        @george-k said in Tree-spiker:

                                        I doubt she will, however.

                                        I think they’ll have her withdraw.

                                        Nope: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tracy-stone-manning-confirmed-bureau-of-land-mananagement_n_61004395e4b0d3b589778ab3

                                        Wherein jon updates his priors about just how far Manchin will go to be a 'team player'.

                                        FIFY, NNTTM.

                                        Right, that's what I said. How far he must go to play on a team of fringe wackery.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Your comment was about my priors. My priors were that one, maybe two moderate Dems would quietly tell the White House that she didn’t have their support.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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