Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election
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@jolly said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
It's going to be interesting in 20 years, as the people who depend upon the MSM for news die out and the younger generations who know better, become the controlling electorate.
Without subscribers or ad money, MSM will just be more obviously what it is: thirst trap or cat accounts whose niche happens to be current events.
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I think until January 6 we thought all this nonsense could be safely ignored. I suspect it’s still true but we were all wrong about the potential for Jan 6 so now we have to take the abuse seriously as this stuff appears to get enough believers that feel like with just a little elbow grease…
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@loki said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
I think until January 6 we thought all this nonsense could be safely ignored. I suspect it’s still true but we were all wrong about the potential for Jan 6 so now we have to take the abuse seriously as this stuff appears to get enough believers that feel like with just a little elbow grease…
But I don’t take Jan 6 seriously. I know a rioter was killed and I know a cop died a day later, but as some sort of coup or insurrection I do not take it seriously. The doors were unlocked and mostly unguarded. Except that one…
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@horace
I think whether you side with Loki or Horace in terms of how seriously to take Jan 6 cannot be more than a matter of one's own opinion. The thing was at once so goofily disordered and at the same time ominous in an undefinable way (made worse by MSM) that it's hard to portend anything from it. -
@horace said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
@loki said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
I think until January 6 we thought all this nonsense could be safely ignored. I suspect it’s still true but we were all wrong about the potential for Jan 6 so now we have to take the abuse seriously as this stuff appears to get enough believers that feel like with just a little elbow grease…
But I don’t take Jan 6 seriously. I know a rioter was killed and I know a cop died a day later, but as some sort of coup or insurrection I do not take it seriously. The doors were unlocked and mostly unguarded. Except that one…
I take any form of anarchy quite seriously but when I see the “law and order” crowd attack the most important symbol of our democracy I see us at defcon 1. If you don’t take Jan 6 seriously I’m not sure how you take anything seriously.
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@catseye3 said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
@horace
I think whether you side with Loki or Horace in terms of how seriously to take Jan 6 cannot be more than a matter of one's own opinion. The thing was at once so goofily disordered and at the same time ominous in an undefinable way (made worse by MSM) that it's hard to portend anything from it.The choice is in whether to deploy rhetoric to put fear or shame into people to keep them from thinking or saying certain things. Loki finds value in convincing people that insurrections are bad and don’t get anywhere near that slippery slope. I find that rhetoric of no value beyond the value of saying the law breaking idiots need to be punished (according to the law).
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@horace said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
@catseye3 said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
@horace
I think whether you side with Loki or Horace in terms of how seriously to take Jan 6 cannot be more than a matter of one's own opinion. The thing was at once so goofily disordered and at the same time ominous in an undefinable way (made worse by MSM) that it's hard to portend anything from it.The choice is in whether to deploy rhetoric to put fear or shame into people to keep them from thinking or saying certain things. Loki finds value in convincing people that insurrections are bad and don’t get anywhere near that slippery slope. I find that rhetoric of no value beyond the value of saying the law breaking idiots need to be punished (according to the law).
Of course it was goofy. It was colossally stupid too and guess what you have to own the punishment for your stupidity. I object most to the lack of accountability for the wrong and the gift giving to the other side. Own it and move on.
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@catseye3 said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
@loki said in Newsweek: Still a chance to overturn the election:
the gift giving to the other side.
Sorry? Maybe I'm denser than usual this morning, but I don't understand what you mean here.
Sorry. We had four years of TDS and on Jan 6 the insurrectionists gave a degree of credence to their mantra.
