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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #1

    Especially this guy:

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    You were warned.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Look at him this young.

      You were warned.

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        Catseye3
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        #3

        @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

        POTD to you, Jon. ❤

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #4

          You want young dads?

          Here you go....

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Look at him this young.

            HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #5

            @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

            Look at him this young.

            God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

              Look at him this young.

              God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
              #6

              @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

              God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

              You think? IDW tend to lean left.

              One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

              You were warned.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #7

                Isn't the point of being a free thinker that you don't want to get tangled up as either a righty or a lefty?

                Peterson has said he's a classic British liberal. Not sure that's really the same thing at all as a right-wing American.

                I was only joking

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                  God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                  You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                  One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by Horace
                  #8

                  @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                  @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                  God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                  You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                  One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                  No none of them are Trumpists, whatever exactly that means. Certainly if asked, they would deny being Trumpists, along with any other free thinker. And when I say lean right, I mean within the context of pop cultural wokeism, which you may or may not agree is pervasive currently.

                  Education is extremely important.

                  jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    Isn't the point of being a free thinker that you don't want to get tangled up as either a righty or a lefty?

                    Peterson has said he's a classic British liberal. Not sure that's really the same thing at all as a right-wing American.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @doctor-phibes said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                    Isn't the point of being a free thinker that you don't want to get tangled up as either a righty or a lefty?

                    Peterson has said he's a classic British liberal. Not sure that's really the same thing at all as a right-wing American.

                    Within our current American cultural context, he leans right. Is that even debatable?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Isn't the point of being a free thinker that you don't want to get tangled up as either a righty or a lefty?

                      Peterson has said he's a classic British liberal. Not sure that's really the same thing at all as a right-wing American.

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                      Horace
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                      #10

                      @doctor-phibes said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                      Isn't the point of being a free thinker that you don't want to get tangled up as either a righty or a lefty?

                      Ultimately of course everybody has an individual opinion on any individual matter. Whether one self identifies as leaning one way or another is a matter of personal preference. But it doesn’t mean blindly following a platform or a person.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                        You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                        One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                        No none of them are Trumpists, whatever exactly that means. Certainly if asked, they would deny being Trumpists, along with any other free thinker. And when I say lean right, I mean within the context of pop cultural wokeism, which you may or may not agree is pervasive currently.

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #11

                        @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                        You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                        One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                        No none of them are Trumpists, whatever exactly that means. Certainly if asked, they would deny being Trumpists, along with any other free thinker. And when I say lean right, I mean within the context of pop cultural wokeism, which you may or may not agree is pervasive currently.

                        Sure, if you define anti-woke as "leans right", then they all fit that definition. But if you defined anti-trumpist as "leans left" then they'd fit that definition too.

                        I'm thinking of, off the top of my head, Sam Harris, Weinstein bros (and Heather Heying), Steven Pinker, Andrew Sullivan, Anne Applebaum, David Frum, Jonathan Haidt, Niall Ferguson, Claire Lehman (and most of Quilette crew), Geoffrey Miller, Michael Shermer, John McWhorter, Nicolas Kristakis, Douglas Murray, Bari Weiss, Thomas Chatterton Williams, Coleman Hughes etc.

                        All anti-woke, mostly (not all) left leaning, most anti-Trump.

                        You were warned.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #12

                          I would go as far as to say that a free thinker today almost definitionally has to be anti-Trump and anti-Woke.

                          Like me and Sam. lol

                          You were warned.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            I would go as far as to say that a free thinker today almost definitionally has to be anti-Trump and anti-Woke.

                            Like me and Sam. lol

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                            I would go as far as to say that a free thinker today almost definitionally has to be anti-Trump and anti-Woke.

                            Like me and Sam. lol

                            It’s facile to be Anti Trump. Never Trump, on the other hand, is mindless.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              Being pro-Trump isn't facile at all, of course.

                              I was only joking

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                                You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                                One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                                No none of them are Trumpists, whatever exactly that means. Certainly if asked, they would deny being Trumpists, along with any other free thinker. And when I say lean right, I mean within the context of pop cultural wokeism, which you may or may not agree is pervasive currently.

                                Sure, if you define anti-woke as "leans right", then they all fit that definition. But if you defined anti-trumpist as "leans left" then they'd fit that definition too.

                                I'm thinking of, off the top of my head, Sam Harris, Weinstein bros (and Heather Heying), Steven Pinker, Andrew Sullivan, Anne Applebaum, David Frum, Jonathan Haidt, Niall Ferguson, Claire Lehman (and most of Quilette crew), Geoffrey Miller, Michael Shermer, John McWhorter, Nicolas Kristakis, Douglas Murray, Bari Weiss, Thomas Chatterton Williams, Coleman Hughes etc.

                                All anti-woke, mostly (not all) left leaning, most anti-Trump.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                                You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                                One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                                No none of them are Trumpists, whatever exactly that means. Certainly if asked, they would deny being Trumpists, along with any other free thinker. And when I say lean right, I mean within the context of pop cultural wokeism, which you may or may not agree is pervasive currently.

                                Sure, if you define anti-woke as "leans right", then they all fit that definition. But if you defined anti-trumpist as "leans left" then they'd fit that definition too.

                                I'm thinking of, off the top of my head, Sam Harris, Weinstein bros (and Heather Heying), Steven Pinker, Andrew Sullivan, Anne Applebaum, David Frum, Jonathan Haidt, Niall Ferguson, Claire Lehman (and most of Quilette crew), Geoffrey Miller, Michael Shermer, John McWhorter, Nicolas Kristakis, Douglas Murray, Bari Weiss, Thomas Chatterton Williams, Coleman Hughes etc.

                                All anti-woke, mostly (not all) left leaning, most anti-Trump.

                                Yes of course they are all classic liberals and grew up in a culture where most of the bright ideas came from the left. There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications. Meanwhile, I tend to agree with Harris or Weinstein on cultural issues. And I have no baggage associated with identifying as right leaning.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Being pro-Trump isn't facile at all, of course.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                  Being pro-Trump isn't facile at all, of course.

                                  Simple judgment call between him and an opponent.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

                                    You were warned.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                      @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                      @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                      God bless free thinkers, most of whom lean right these days.

                                      You think? IDW tend to lean left.

                                      One thing can be said with certainty - almost none of them are Trumpists. And zero of them are woke.

                                      No none of them are Trumpists, whatever exactly that means. Certainly if asked, they would deny being Trumpists, along with any other free thinker. And when I say lean right, I mean within the context of pop cultural wokeism, which you may or may not agree is pervasive currently.

                                      Sure, if you define anti-woke as "leans right", then they all fit that definition. But if you defined anti-trumpist as "leans left" then they'd fit that definition too.

                                      I'm thinking of, off the top of my head, Sam Harris, Weinstein bros (and Heather Heying), Steven Pinker, Andrew Sullivan, Anne Applebaum, David Frum, Jonathan Haidt, Niall Ferguson, Claire Lehman (and most of Quilette crew), Geoffrey Miller, Michael Shermer, John McWhorter, Nicolas Kristakis, Douglas Murray, Bari Weiss, Thomas Chatterton Williams, Coleman Hughes etc.

                                      All anti-woke, mostly (not all) left leaning, most anti-Trump.

                                      Yes of course they are all classic liberals and grew up in a culture where most of the bright ideas came from the left. There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications. Meanwhile, I tend to agree with Harris or Weinstein on cultural issues. And I have no baggage associated with identifying as right leaning.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #18

                                      @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                      There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

                                      Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

                                      The ones that truly switch sides are pretty much uninteresting tools, like Dave Rubin or Jennifer Rubin.

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                        Being pro-Trump isn't facile at all, of course.

                                        Simple judgment call between him and an opponent.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #19

                                        @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                        Being pro-Trump isn't facile at all, of course.

                                        Simple judgment call between him and an opponent.

                                        There's a difference between enthusiastically voting for somebody and sitting in abject despair for 1/2 an hour after ticking a box. The latter is not pro-Trump, so much as anti-something else.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                                          The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

                                          What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

                                          VDH is a public intellectual and wrote The Case for Trump. Trumpist?

                                          I won’t ask you to attempt to define Trumpist. I’m just trying to triangulate it.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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