How CRT may play in elections
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@mik said in How CRT may play in elections:
That doesn’t fix anything. We’ve done that for 50 years.
No it doesn't.
But perhaps I wan't as explicit as I could have been with (1) above. How it works is, the successes you have had in your life are the result of your white privilege. The proof is that the successes exist and happened; their very existence is all the evidence you need that white privilege exists. Oh and if you refute that, that's proof of your white fragility. That's the story.
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@aqua-letifer said in How CRT may play in elections:
the best thing they can do for their lives is not be a success, but support women and minorities and help them succeed. Because they deserve it and you don't.
Well, ain't that too nauseating for words.
Here's some advice. Stop whining and work harder.
@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer said in How CRT may play in elections:
the best thing they can do for their lives is not be a success, but support women and minorities and help them succeed. Because they deserve it and you don't.
Well, ain't that too nauseating for words.
Here's some advice. Stop whining and work harder.
All the hard work in the world isn't going to dismantle the systemic racism that makes it impossible for them to get ahead. Therefore, before they can work hard, they've got to pull the racist whites down from their pedestal.
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@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer said in How CRT may play in elections:
the best thing they can do for their lives is not be a success, but support women and minorities and help them succeed. Because they deserve it and you don't.
Well, ain't that too nauseating for words.
Here's some advice. Stop whining and work harder.
All the hard work in the world isn't going to dismantle the systemic racism that makes it impossible for them to get ahead. Therefore, before they can work hard, they've got to pull the racist whites down from their pedestal.
@aqua-letifer Eleanor Roosevelt said that nobody can disrespect you without your permission.
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@aqua-letifer Eleanor Roosevelt said that nobody can disrespect you without your permission.
@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Eleanor Roosevelt said that nobody can disrespect you without your permission.
A finer example of white privilege there never was.
See how easy this is? It's kind of like ancient astronauts or the electric universe nutters. All you need to have the conspiracy keep making sense in the midst of evidence is just to broaden it more and you're good.
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@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Eleanor Roosevelt said that nobody can disrespect you without your permission.
A finer example of white privilege there never was.
See how easy this is? It's kind of like ancient astronauts or the electric universe nutters. All you need to have the conspiracy keep making sense in the midst of evidence is just to broaden it more and you're good.
@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking and snarling from under the porch.
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@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking and snarling from under the porch.
@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking from under the porch.
I wouldn't say that. It's not just talk, people are losing their jobs, their housing and getting death threats over this shit.
Please love yourself.
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@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking from under the porch.
I wouldn't say that. It's not just talk, people are losing their jobs, their housing and getting death threats over this shit.
@aqua-letifer Anything hurtful or damaging that these jokers are perpetuating, they are somehow being awarded permission to do so. Or they believe they are.
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@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking from under the porch.
I wouldn't say that. It's not just talk, people are losing their jobs, their housing and getting death threats over this shit.
@aqua-letifer said in How CRT may play in elections:
@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking from under the porch.
I wouldn't say that. It's not just talk, people are losing their jobs, their housing and getting death threats over this shit.
Which brings up one of the most non-PC points of all...With a few exceptions, some of the most racist people -especially managers - I have ever worked with are black.
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@aqua-letifer said in How CRT may play in elections:
@catseye3 said in How CRT may play in elections:
@aqua-letifer Yes, I do see. But I also see that these people are still a bunch of small dogs barking from under the porch.
I wouldn't say that. It's not just talk, people are losing their jobs, their housing and getting death threats over this shit.
Which brings up one of the most non-PC points of all...With a few exceptions, some of the most racist people -especially managers - I have ever worked with are black.
@jolly said in How CRT may play in elections:
Which brings up one of the most non-PC points of all...With a few exceptions, some of the most racist people -especially managers - I have ever worked with are black.
With service jobs, by definition you meet a ton of different people. Hundreds a day sometimes.
With my service jobs, the worst customers were, in no particular order, middle-class blacks, upper middle-class Indian families, and white trash. They all acted pretty much the same.
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Trash is trash, with no regard to color. We worked with indigent people and their families. With very little experience, it's not hard to separate the poor people from the trash.
My bunch would bust their ass for poor people. The trash? Well, not so much...
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Trash is trash, with no regard to color. We worked with indigent people and their families. With very little experience, it's not hard to separate the poor people from the trash.
My bunch would bust their ass for poor people. The trash? Well, not so much...
@jolly said in How CRT may play in elections:
Trash is trash, with no regard to color. We worked with indigent people and their families. With very little experience, it's not hard to separate the poor people from the trash.
My bunch would bust their ass for poor people. The trash? Well, not so much...
Being good at doing delivery is actually difficult. I memorized the timing of the lights in my area, and knew how fast the elevators were in the highrises. I'd call 2 to 5 blocks away, saying I was right outside waiting with their order, knowing I'd get there right when they got to the door. This saved me about 2 minutes per delivery, which when you're doing 100+ a night adds up to a big damn deal.
You gotta balance a lot of cost-benefit games in your head at once: traffic, what would make for the most efficient route, and not screw over the folks who ordered first vs. ordered last. I'd often leave with a dozen orders in my bag.
Anyway, one of the things I started doing was checking the name attached to the order. Depending on the type of name, that would influence where I'd put them in the queue. Because for some types of names, ain't no damn way I was getting any kind of a tip. None. Wouldn't matter if I delivered 15 minutes after they ordered and they were given free shit, I'd get a nod and an empty hand.
I felt bad about doing that, but they kept proving my assumptions right time and time again. I chalked it up to a cultural thing and kept doing it.
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https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-dei-crt-schools-parents
Story on how local school board meeting attendees stopped the plan for a school district to hire a DEI ("diversity, equity, inclusion"), accusing the candidate of wanting to bring CRT ("Critical Race Theory") into the curriculum -- which is false, the candidate had no prior knowledge of "critical race theory" and when first asked about "CRT" thought it referred to another education philosophy called "Culturally Responsive Teaching". Anyhow, the same school board meeting attendees subsequently ran the same candidate out of another job at a neighboring school district, again on accusations of "critical race theory."
What's left? Metal detectors at the entrance to every school board meeting since, increased police presence at every school board meeting since, and a teacher assigned to oversee emergency evacuation of students should the need arise at every school board meeting since.
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I'm not sure what you are saying. Is it your contention that because they would not hire this person they should expect attacks?
The basic truth here is that white parents do not want it drilled into their children that they are racists simply by virtue of being white.
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I'm not sure what you are saying. Is it your contention that because they would not hire this person they should expect attacks?
The basic truth here is that white parents do not want it drilled into their children that they are racists simply by virtue of being white.
@Mik said in How CRT may play in elections:
I'm not sure what you are saying. Is it your contention that because they would not hire this person they should expect attacks?
Read the article. It goes into the details on how the school board meetings evolved to the point of needing all those security and emergency security measures.
The basic truth here is that white parents do not want it drilled into their children that they are racists simply by virtue of being white.
It is also a basic fact that the schools districts are not teaching that.
Just because a bunch of misinformed school board meeting attendees accuse the schools of teaching something does not make it true.
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In an age where bookstores are having childrens' book readings by drag queens, I think this is not so far fetched as you would like to believe.
So just what is your contention here, Ax?
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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This is such a stupid argument. Yes, CRT was originally a legal theory that was narrowly focused on the legal system and law enforcement. But when the fundamental elements (inherent systemic racism in policies, unequal outcomes, equity over equality, etc…) are being used in education and the workplace there are a whole bunch of dipshits saying “it’s not CRT because it’s not focused on the legal system”. They are missing the forest for the trees and playing semantic games…
The Brad
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In an age where bookstores are having childrens' book readings by drag queens, I think this is not so far fetched as you would like to believe.
So just what is your contention here, Ax?
@Mik said in How CRT may play in elections:
In an age where bookstores are having childrens' book readings by drag queens, I think this is not so far fetched as you would like to believe.
Yet it is true that the schools have not and have no plan to teach CRT.
Why would "drag Queen reading to children in library" somewhere else be indicative of whether those two Georgia school districts are teaching or not teaching something?
Look at the facts. Don't get suckered in by propaganda or conspiracy theories.
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@Mik said in How CRT may play in elections:
In an age where bookstores are having childrens' book readings by drag queens, I think this is not so far fetched as you would like to believe.
Yet it is true that the schools have not and have no plan to teach CRT.
Why would "drag Queen reading to children in library" somewhere else be indicative of whether those two Georgia school districts are teaching or not teaching something?
Look at the facts. Don't get suckered in by propaganda or conspiracy theories.
@Axtremus said in How CRT may play in elections:
@Mik said in How CRT may play in elections:
In an age where bookstores are having childrens' book readings by drag queens, I think this is not so far fetched as you would like to believe.
Yet it is true that the schools have not and have no plan to teach CRT.
Why would "drag Queen reading to children in library" somewhere else be indicative of whether those two Georgia school districts are teaching or not teaching something?
Look at the facts. Don't get suckered in by propaganda or conspiracy theories.
Look at the facts and don’t get suckered in by stupid semantic games.
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The quality of discussion around this issue is very poor. People on the right use “CRT” without really understanding what they’re talking about and people on the left either deliberately or out of ignorance strawman the complaints by taking them too literally.
Like they’ll say “nobody teaches CRT in elementary school”, meaning no fifth graders are being taught Delgado or Derrick Bell. Ok, sure that’s true as far as it goes, but the real issue is in illiberal CRT-infused ideas, which are in fact getting applied in grade schools.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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The quality of discussion around this issue is very poor. People on the right use “CRT” without really understanding what they’re talking about and people on the left either deliberately or out of ignorance strawman the complaints by taking them too literally.
Like they’ll say “nobody teaches CRT in elementary school”, meaning no fifth graders are being taught Delgado or Derrick Bell. Ok, sure that’s true as far as it goes, but the real issue is in illiberal CRT-infused ideas, which are in fact getting applied in grade schools.
@jon-nyc said in How CRT may play in elections:
The quality of discussion around this issue is very poor. People on the right use “CRT” without really understanding what they’re talking about and people on the left either deliberately or out of ignorance strawman the complaints by taking them too literally.
Like they’ll say “nobody teaches CRT in elementary school”, meaning no fifth graders are being taught Delgado or Derrick Bell. Ok, sure that’s true as far as it goes, but the real issue is in illiberal CRT-infused ideas, which are in fact getting applied in grade schools.
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