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  • KlausK Klaus

    @axtremus said in Need book recommendations:

    The unfortunate thing is if I take your "1000 word vocabulary" assessment literally and try to map it to a native anglophone's age or grade level, this site maps it to below age five.

    I found this mapping from grades to CEFR language levels:

    5th grade: A1
    6th grade: A1+
    7th grade: A2
    8th grade: A2+
    9th grade: B1
    10th grade: B1+
    12th grade: B2+

    My son is 7th grade, so level A2. According to this website A2 vocabulary is around 1500 words.

    I think it is in general a lot of work to speak a foreign language as good as a 5 year old native speaker.

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    @klaus said in Need book recommendations:

    @axtremus said in Need book recommendations:

    The unfortunate thing is if I take your "1000 word vocabulary" assessment literally and try to map it to a native anglophone's age or grade level, this site maps it to below age five.

    I found this mapping from grades to CEFR language levels:

    5th grade: A1
    6th grade: A1+
    7th grade: A2
    8th grade: A2+
    9th grade: B1
    10th grade: B1+
    12th grade: B2+

    My son is 7th grade, so level A2. According to this website A2 vocabulary is around 1500 words.

    I think it is in general a lot of work to speak a foreign language as good as a 5 year old native speaker.

    I think all the stuff I gave you was American 6th grade level, if that can work...

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      jon-nyc
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      Percy Jackson is a good recommendation but could be beyond his English level. I can post a sample page or two.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        I could just send my boy over there for the summer.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I could just send my boy over there for the summer.

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          @jon-nyc said in Need book recommendations:

          I could just send my boy over there for the summer.

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          • George KG George K

            Actually, what about some of the Tom Swift books?

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            @george-k said in Need book recommendations:

            Actually, what about some of the Tom Swift books?

            Yes, obviously, no question

            This is number one on the list

            Maybe the Hardy Boys after this

            And Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer

            Edit

            And now I just noticed that there is a long line of new Tom Swift books written in the 80s, 90s and beyond. I am not familiar with these. The books from the 1950s are terrific.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              Oo! Oo! I just thought of something! The Hardy Boys!

              "The Hardy Boys, brothers Frank and Joe Hardy, are fictional characters who appear in several mystery series for children and teens."

              Go here: https://www.google.com/search?q="hardy+boys"&sxsrf=ALeKk02EN4Wa3RsCKc7Z7xK6S8SgBrsfgw%3A1623876662826&source=hp&ei=NmTKYOvkL4PD0PEP3_mlqAw&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYMpyRmhcWhW-RwA4wLDDBPyWrxh81rBr&oq="hardy+boys"&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECcyBAgAEEMyBAguEEMyBAgAEEMyBwgAEIcCEBQyBAgAEEMyAggAMgIILjICCAAyAgguOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoOCC4QsQMQgwEQxwEQrwE6BQgAEMkDOgUIABCSAzoICC4QsQMQgwE6CwguEMcBEKMCEJMCOgUILhCxAzoFCAAQsQM6BwguEIcCEBRQ1jVY7oMBYLiHAWgBcAB4AYAByAOIAcEOkgEIMS4xMS40LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjr15P9g53xAhWDITQIHd98CcUQ4dUDCAk&uact=5

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              @catseye3 said in Need book recommendations:

              Oo! Oo! I just thought of something! The Hardy Boys!

              "The Hardy Boys, brothers Frank and Joe Hardy, are fictional characters who appear in several mystery series for children and teens."

              Go here: https://www.google.com/search?q="hardy+boys"&sxsrf=ALeKk02EN4Wa3RsCKc7Z7xK6S8SgBrsfgw%3A1623876662826&source=hp&ei=NmTKYOvkL4PD0PEP3_mlqAw&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYMpyRmhcWhW-RwA4wLDDBPyWrxh81rBr&oq="hardy+boys"&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECcyBAgAEEMyBAguEEMyBAgAEEMyBwgAEIcCEBQyBAgAEEMyAggAMgIILjICCAAyAgguOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoOCC4QsQMQgwEQxwEQrwE6BQgAEMkDOgUIABCSAzoICC4QsQMQgwE6CwguEMcBEKMCEJMCOgUILhCxAzoFCAAQsQM6BwguEIcCEBRQ1jVY7oMBYLiHAWgBcAB4AYAByAOIAcEOkgEIMS4xMS40LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjr15P9g53xAhWDITQIHd98CcUQ4dUDCAk&uact=5

              Darn! Cats beat me to this. Good job, Cats. 🙂

              Yes, this series could be fun for your kiddo.

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                Here's a sample of Percy Jackson writing:

                Screen Shot 2021-06-16 at 11.07.56 PM.png

                If you think that's too advanced, I have other suggestions of adventure stories but one problem you could find is that the books written at a reading level he'd be good with won't interest him because they're aimed at younger kids.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I could just send my boy over there for the summer.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Need book recommendations:

                  I could just send my boy over there for the summer.

                  Well, send him over, he'd be very welcome. But I'm afraid he'd learn more German than my boys would learn English 🙂

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Here's a sample of Percy Jackson writing:

                    Screen Shot 2021-06-16 at 11.07.56 PM.png

                    If you think that's too advanced, I have other suggestions of adventure stories but one problem you could find is that the books written at a reading level he'd be good with won't interest him because they're aimed at younger kids.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Need book recommendations:

                    If you think that's too advanced, I have other suggestions of adventure stories but one problem you could find is that the books written at a reading level he'd be good with won't interest him because they're aimed at younger kids.

                    That's a good suggestion. If it's a very well-known book or story, then there's a non-zero probability that I'll find specially prepared versions of the book that would contain footnotes and vocabulary lists for more advanced words.

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