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RIP Railgun

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  • George KG Offline
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    The Navy's Railgun Is Finally Dead

    The U.S. Navy’s push to create a $500 million electromagnetic railgun weapon—capable of slinging projectiles at hypersonic speeds—appears to have come to an end. The service is ending funding for the railgun without having sent a single weapon to sea, while pushing technology derived from the program into existing weapons.

    The weapon is a victim of a change in the Navy’s direction toward faster, longer-range weapons that are capable of striking ships and land targets in a major war.

    The Navy’s budget request includes no funding for the railgun in 2022, The Drive reports.

    Electromagnetic railguns are decidedly different from conventional guns, cannons, and howitzers. Regular guns use the pressure from an ignited gunpowder charge to expel a projectile from the barrel, sending it flying on a ballistic trajectory. Railguns, meanwhile, using electricity and magnetism instead of gunpowder and chemical energy to accelerate a projectile down a pair of rails.

    Railguns are theoretically safer than conventional guns, since they reduce the amount of volatile powder a ship stores deep within its bowels in the ammunition magazine. The projectiles are also faster.

    But despite those advantages, there are reasons why the Navy is canning the railgun, which has been in development since 2005. For one, there are currently only three ships the Navy could conceivably fit the railgun to: the three Zumwalt-class destroyers. The next opportunity for fitting warships with railguns won’t happen until the late 2020s, when the Navy begins construction on its next-generation DDG(X) destroyers...

    Railguns appear to have fallen victim to the new trend: hypersonic weapons. The Navy’s new Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB), developed in conjunction with the U.S. Army, has a top speed of Mach 17 and a range of more than 1,700 miles. That’s fast enough to engage time-sensitive targets from a safe distance.

    The Navy announced in May it plans to add its C-HGB to its Zumwalt-class destroyers. The service has repeatedly floated replacing the two 155-millimeter Advanced Gun Systems (AGS) on the Zumwalts with railguns, since the cost of the precision-guided round developed for the guns has become unaffordable. Now, hypersonics will fill the void left by the AGS guns.

    The Navy seems to have decided, quite logically, that it’s better to outfit the ships with a weapon with a 1,700-mile range instead of a 100-mile range (at best).

    While the American railgun system appears shuttered, the fate of China’s railgun program is still unknown. Observers first spotted China’s railgun fitted to a landing ship on the Yangtze River in 2018. It remains to be seen if Beijing follows Washington’s lead in canning electromagnetic-based projectile guns, or if the People’s Liberation Army decides the weapon still has some value.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I assume this means we have something better.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        I'd still like to have a weapon with over the horizon capability, that fires a dirt cheap projectile.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Damn, I've always liked the railgun in Quake 3 Arena.

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            I would imagine a space based railgun would have value but that would be a few decades to develop and implement.

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              I think space-based weapons fall into a couple of categories, at least past the killer satellite stage. I think we're either talking KE God Rods or missiles.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                I think space-based weapons fall into a couple of categories, at least past the killer satellite stage. I think we're either talking KE God Rods or missiles.

                George KG Offline
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                @jolly said in RIP Railgun:

                I think space-based weapons fall into a couple of categories, at least past the killer satellite stage.

                Link to video

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  @jolly said in RIP Railgun:

                  I think space-based weapons fall into a couple of categories, at least past the killer satellite stage.

                  Link to video

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                  @george-k said in RIP Railgun:

                  @jolly said in RIP Railgun:

                  I think space-based weapons fall into a couple of categories, at least past the killer satellite stage.

                  Link to video

                  Get out of my head.

                  Please love yourself.

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