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    Catseye3
    wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 01:06 last edited by
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    Scientists from the University of New South Wales in Australia did some math. When 22 pounds of fat is oxidized, 18.5 pounds leave the body through the lungs as CO2.”

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      11 Oct 2022, 19:15

      @Klaus said in Mildly interesting:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

      @Klaus said in Mildly interesting:

      @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

      Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.

      And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.

      Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.

      That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.

      I feel the same way about testing your electrical equipment's potential for causing gas and dust explosions.

      And let's be honest, mine is going to be a lot more fun than your boring programming shite.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 01:32 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mildly interesting:

      @Klaus said in Mildly interesting:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

      @Klaus said in Mildly interesting:

      @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

      Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.

      And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.

      Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.

      That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.

      I feel the same way about testing your electrical equipment's potential for causing gas and dust explosions.

      And let's be honest, mine is going to be a lot more fun than your boring programming shite.

      I have a feeling that jon's suggestions on this topic would be more than mildly interesting.

      Please love yourself.

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      • A Aqua Letifer
        11 Oct 2022, 18:35

        @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

        I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

        See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

        1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
        2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

        Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 11:08 last edited by
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        @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

        @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

        I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

        See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

        1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
        2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

        Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

        Why can't we have both?

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        • J Jolly
          12 Oct 2022, 11:08

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

          @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

          I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

          See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

          1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
          2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

          Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

          Why can't we have both?

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          wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 13:22 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in Mildly interesting:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

          @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

          I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

          See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

          1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
          2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

          Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

          Why can't we have both?

          Fine by me. Seems insane, though, that we have neither.

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            12 Oct 2022, 13:22

            @Jolly said in Mildly interesting:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

            @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

            I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

            See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

            1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
            2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

            Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

            Why can't we have both?

            Fine by me. Seems insane, though, that we have neither.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 14:50 last edited by
            #595

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

            @Jolly said in Mildly interesting:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

            @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

            I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

            See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

            1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
            2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

            Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

            Why can't we have both?

            Fine by me. Seems insane, though, that we have neither.

            We do have both. Well, the public school district in my area has both. Language, art, music, history, STEM (including computer science), economics, business, etc. are all available as classes and as after school clubs. From what I’m seeing here, I think our younger generation will do just fine.

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            • A Axtremus
              12 Oct 2022, 14:50

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

              @Jolly said in Mildly interesting:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

              @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

              I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

              See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

              1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
              2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

              Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

              Why can't we have both?

              Fine by me. Seems insane, though, that we have neither.

              We do have both. Well, the public school district in my area has both. Language, art, music, history, STEM (including computer science), economics, business, etc. are all available as classes and as after school clubs. From what I’m seeing here, I think our younger generation will do just fine.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 15:38 last edited by
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              @Axtremus said in Mildly interesting:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

              @Jolly said in Mildly interesting:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

              @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

              I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

              See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

              1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
              2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

              Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

              Why can't we have both?

              Fine by me. Seems insane, though, that we have neither.

              We do have both. Well, the public school district in my area has both. Language, art, music, history, STEM (including computer science), economics, business, etc. are all available as classes and as after school clubs. From what I’m seeing here, I think our younger generation will do just fine.

              Your endorsement is the best evidence there is that something is terribly wrong.

              Please love yourself.

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                11 Oct 2022, 18:35

                @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

                I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.

                See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

                1. The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
                2. The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

                Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?

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                Klaus
                wrote on 12 Oct 2022, 15:48 last edited by
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                @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

                See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

                The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
                The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

                I don't think at all that the primary purpose of schools is to make kids "marketable". When I say "coding", I don't mean "program web pages". I mean it in the sense of "get a new perspective on the world". That's not the way coding is taught, but it should. It's a way of thinking. The fact that it can also be used to instruct silly machines isn't what's interesting about it.

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                • K Klaus
                  12 Oct 2022, 15:48

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

                  See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

                  The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
                  The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

                  I don't think at all that the primary purpose of schools is to make kids "marketable". When I say "coding", I don't mean "program web pages". I mean it in the sense of "get a new perspective on the world". That's not the way coding is taught, but it should. It's a way of thinking. The fact that it can also be used to instruct silly machines isn't what's interesting about it.

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                  @Klaus said in Mildly interesting:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:

                  See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:

                  The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
                  The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.

                  I don't think at all that the primary purpose of schools is to make kids "marketable". When I say "coding", I don't mean "program web pages". I mean it in the sense of "get a new perspective on the world". That's not the way coding is taught, but it should. It's a way of thinking. The fact that it can also be used to instruct silly machines isn't what's interesting about it.

                  Yeah, that's fair. I just think it's funny that regardless of how one views the purpose of education, chances are good you're not too happy with the system at present.

                  Coding is indeed a good thing to learn. It can be a good intro to logic and reasoning, in a way in which the logical "experiments" you run can be immediately tested.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    A 150 ft. Iceberg passing through Iceberg Alley near Twillingate, Newfoundland, Canada. A great view for your morning coffee.
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                      13 pictures of the sun, each month, same place, same time.

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                        Cloaking Device: ON

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          I’ve seen that before. Nature is metal.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Cloaking Device: ON

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                            @George-K fascinating movie. “My octopus teacher”. I assure you, you will never be able to look at an octopus again without this movie coming to mind.

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                              @George-K fascinating movie. “My octopus teacher”. I assure you, you will never be able to look at an octopus again without this movie coming to mind.

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                              @bachophile said in Mildly interesting:

                              @George-K fascinating movie. “My octopus teacher”. I assure you, you will never be able to look at an octopus again without this movie coming to mind.

                              Yes. We talked about it a while ago - I think @Horace , being the misanthrope (or whatever the term is for an octopus hater is) that he is was not impressed.

                              I enjoyed it however.

                              I may have mentioned Sy Montgomery's book, The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness in that thread. It's a great read with lots of insights that are amplified in that movie.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                14 Oct 2022, 11:33

                                @bachophile said in Mildly interesting:

                                @George-K fascinating movie. “My octopus teacher”. I assure you, you will never be able to look at an octopus again without this movie coming to mind.

                                Yes. We talked about it a while ago - I think @Horace , being the misanthrope (or whatever the term is for an octopus hater is) that he is was not impressed.

                                I enjoyed it however.

                                I may have mentioned Sy Montgomery's book, The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness in that thread. It's a great read with lots of insights that are amplified in that movie.

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                                @George-K said in Mildly interesting:

                                @bachophile said in Mildly interesting:

                                @George-K fascinating movie. “My octopus teacher”. I assure you, you will never be able to look at an octopus again without this movie coming to mind.

                                Yes. We talked about it a while ago - I think @Horace , being the misanthrope (or whatever the term is for an octopus hater is) that he is was not impressed.

                                I enjoyed it. I think @Mik didn’t.

                                That’s the worst gaffe you’ve made since you attributed my original thought that gender reassignment would be judged historically as lobotomies are, to some random article you read.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  14 Oct 2022, 11:43

                                  @George-K said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @bachophile said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @George-K fascinating movie. “My octopus teacher”. I assure you, you will never be able to look at an octopus again without this movie coming to mind.

                                  Yes. We talked about it a while ago - I think @Horace , being the misanthrope (or whatever the term is for an octopus hater is) that he is was not impressed.

                                  I enjoyed it. I think @Mik didn’t.

                                  That’s the worst gaffe you’ve made since you attributed my original thought that gender reassignment would be judged historically as lobotomies are, to some random article you read.

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                                  @Horace said in Mildly interesting:

                                  I enjoyed it. I think @Mik didn’t.

                                  You are correct, and please excuse my misattribution.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    wrote on 15 Oct 2022, 00:01 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Synchronized Dancing

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        In 1960, David Latimer planted a tiny garden inside of a large glass bottle and sealed it shut. He opened the bottle 12 years later in 1972 to add some water and then sealed it for good. The self contained ecosystem has flourished for nearly 60 years.

                                        For those who are wondering how this is even possible: the garden is a perfectly balanced and self-sufficient ecosystem. The bacteria in the compost eats the dead plants and breaks down the oxygen that is released by the plants, turning it into carbon dioxide, which is needed for photosynthesis. The bottle is essentially a microcosm of earth.

                                        https://biologicperformance.com/sealed-bottle-terrarium-garden-watered-once-53-years/

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                                          7f7c2d1d-dedb-406c-8269-bc8ac803dac0-image.png

                                          In 1960, David Latimer planted a tiny garden inside of a large glass bottle and sealed it shut. He opened the bottle 12 years later in 1972 to add some water and then sealed it for good. The self contained ecosystem has flourished for nearly 60 years.

                                          For those who are wondering how this is even possible: the garden is a perfectly balanced and self-sufficient ecosystem. The bacteria in the compost eats the dead plants and breaks down the oxygen that is released by the plants, turning it into carbon dioxide, which is needed for photosynthesis. The bottle is essentially a microcosm of earth.

                                          https://biologicperformance.com/sealed-bottle-terrarium-garden-watered-once-53-years/

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                                          wrote on 16 Oct 2022, 21:16 last edited by
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                                          @Copper said in Mildly interesting:

                                          7f7c2d1d-dedb-406c-8269-bc8ac803dac0-image.png

                                          In 1960, David Latimer planted a tiny garden inside of a large glass bottle and sealed it shut. He opened the bottle 12 years later in 1972 to add some water and then sealed it for good. The self contained ecosystem has flourished for nearly 60 years.

                                          For those who are wondering how this is even possible: the garden is a perfectly balanced and self-sufficient ecosystem. The bacteria in the compost eats the dead plants and breaks down the oxygen that is released by the plants, turning it into carbon dioxide, which is needed for photosynthesis. The bottle is essentially a microcosm of earth.

                                          https://biologicperformance.com/sealed-bottle-terrarium-garden-watered-once-53-years/

                                          Steve Bannon tried that with humans in it.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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