Mildly interesting
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History of PDF:
https://www.se-radio.net/2022/10/episode-532-peter-wyatt-and-duff-johnson-on-30-years-of-pdf/
Radio interview of two PDF veteran technologists on how PDF has evolved in the last 30 years. You can download the audio for offline listening, I believe.
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The brain pathologist, Edward Charles Spitzka, who did the autopsy on Garfield's assassin (Charles Guiteau) found that Guiteau's brain was structurally abnormal, perhaps predisposing him to insanity.
The man who examined the brain of McKinley's assassin, Leon Czolgosz, was Edward Anthony Spitzka, the son of the other Spitzka.
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@kluurs Is that photo real? Why would somebody make a very expensive photo of two dirty kids in 1904? At that time, taking a photo was an event for which people dressed specifically.
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@kluurs Is that photo real? Why would somebody make a very expensive photo of two dirty kids in 1904? At that time, taking a photo was an event for which people dressed specifically.
Retraction - No, apparently not. It is shown as Al Capone and his brother on a few sites which is why I thought it legit - but up on further sleuthing it appears to be a photograph of Vivian Maier's who wasn't born till 1926. Thus, you're right, not Al Capone.
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Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
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@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
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@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
It is neither surprising nor in keeping with the spirit of this thread to learn you feel that way about what you do for a living.
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@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
It is neither surprising nor in keeping with the spirit of this thread to learn you feel that way about what you do for a living.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
It is neither surprising nor in keeping with the spirit of this thread to learn you feel that way about what you do for a living.
It's not that I'm saying that. Basically everybody is saying that.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
It is neither surprising nor in keeping with the spirit of this thread to learn you feel that way about what you do for a living.
It's not that I'm saying that. Basically everybody is saying that.
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I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.
See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:
- The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
- The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.
Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?
Please love yourself.
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@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.
See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:
- The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
- The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.
Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
doing in the schools?
That probably depends first on Public vs Private vs Parochial.
It seems like Public schools place a lot of emphasis on gender studies and racism.
Private schools emphasize networking and making the right connections.
The Parochial schools educate students as individuals, intellectually and spiritually.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
I feel the same way about testing your electrical equipment's potential for causing gas and dust explosions.
And let's be honest, mine is going to be a lot more fun than your boring programming shite.
I was only joking
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@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
I feel the same way about testing your electrical equipment's potential for causing gas and dust explosions.
And let's be honest, mine is going to be a lot more fun than your boring programming shite.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Klaus said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
Before computers, you could look at a piece of technology and gain some insight into how it worked.
And with computers, you can look at a piece of code and gain some insight into how it works.
Which is a lot less cool or interesting to anyone not doing it for a living.
That's why coding should be a basic skill that everyone should have to some degree, regardless of whether he or she does it for a living.
I feel the same way about testing your electrical equipment's potential for causing gas and dust explosions.
And let's be honest, mine is going to be a lot more fun than your boring programming shite.
I have a feeling that jon's suggestions on this topic would be more than mildly interesting.
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@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.
See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:
- The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
- The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.
Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mildly interesting:
@Horace said in Mildly interesting:
I assume coding will enjoy the same appreciation and comprehension among adults who learned it as kids, as algebra does.
See, okay, that's the thing. There are two schools of thought about education:
- The "prepare kids to be marketable" camp. These people, like Klaus perhaps, think education poorly prepares kids for the kind of skills they'll need out in the world: coding, financial literacy, managerial and communication skills.
- The "prepare kids to live meaningfully" camp. These people, like me, think education poorly prepares kids to have thoughts and perspectives, and the training required to share them: through writing, music, the arts.
Spend fifteen minutes looking into the curricula around the U.S. and probably the western world for that matter. Both camps are right in their assessment. Which begs the question of just what in the fuck are we doing in the schools?
Why can't we have both?
