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  • IvorythumperI Offline
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    #519

    From a doctor friend’s FB:

    Levetiracetam, Adalimumab and Domperidon—these all hove two things in common. They are prescribed medications and they are very difficult to pronounce. So why are medication names so difficult to pronounce and their generic name is an alien language? And where do these names come from?

    Pharmaceutical names (the generic name) are assigned according to a scheme in which specific syllables in the drug name (called stems) convey information about the chemical structure, action, or indication of the drug. But brand names are strange because they must be.

    If it seems as if drug names have been getting weirder, it’s because, in some cases, they have. And they’re likely to continue to, as the FDA approves new medicines at record rates, and regulations require a certain degree of differentiation from both other drugs and recognizable words—in any language.

    The more drugs that come out every year, the more novel the names need to be. For example, drug names use the letter Q three times as often as words in the English language. For Xs, it’s 16 times as much. Zs take the cake, at more than 18 times the frequency you’d find them in English words.

    Only about 10 percent of drug brand names had four syllables in 2010, but now have grown to 15 percent, as drugmakers search for ever-unique names. As for five-syllable drug names? They’re coming. Take Jentadueto, a combination of two diabetes products sold by Boehringer Ingelheim and Eli Lilly.

    Since the FDA requires a unique name for the drug and have to make sure the name is proprietary, can be protected and isn’t overlapping or on top of an existing name. To add still another layer, drug companies have to beware of whether their brand names mean anything in any other language. Tecfidera was almost called Panoplin but it had to go, ultimately, because it was closely tied to terminologies in Nordic countries and Italy.

    Some brand names come about because of what they treat or because of a color. For those reasons, the naming process can start with hundreds or even thousands of names. Those then get whittled down to a handful that may be submitted for regulatory approval. The whole process can take from a few months to a few years; full legal screens can take six months.

    The days of simple names like Viagra and Prozac are quickly disappearing. So as the new strange sounding drugs name appear, you can tell your friends you know why.

    More useless information just because I wanted to know more.

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    • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

      From a doctor friend’s FB:

      Levetiracetam, Adalimumab and Domperidon—these all hove two things in common. They are prescribed medications and they are very difficult to pronounce. So why are medication names so difficult to pronounce and their generic name is an alien language? And where do these names come from?

      Pharmaceutical names (the generic name) are assigned according to a scheme in which specific syllables in the drug name (called stems) convey information about the chemical structure, action, or indication of the drug. But brand names are strange because they must be.

      If it seems as if drug names have been getting weirder, it’s because, in some cases, they have. And they’re likely to continue to, as the FDA approves new medicines at record rates, and regulations require a certain degree of differentiation from both other drugs and recognizable words—in any language.

      The more drugs that come out every year, the more novel the names need to be. For example, drug names use the letter Q three times as often as words in the English language. For Xs, it’s 16 times as much. Zs take the cake, at more than 18 times the frequency you’d find them in English words.

      Only about 10 percent of drug brand names had four syllables in 2010, but now have grown to 15 percent, as drugmakers search for ever-unique names. As for five-syllable drug names? They’re coming. Take Jentadueto, a combination of two diabetes products sold by Boehringer Ingelheim and Eli Lilly.

      Since the FDA requires a unique name for the drug and have to make sure the name is proprietary, can be protected and isn’t overlapping or on top of an existing name. To add still another layer, drug companies have to beware of whether their brand names mean anything in any other language. Tecfidera was almost called Panoplin but it had to go, ultimately, because it was closely tied to terminologies in Nordic countries and Italy.

      Some brand names come about because of what they treat or because of a color. For those reasons, the naming process can start with hundreds or even thousands of names. Those then get whittled down to a handful that may be submitted for regulatory approval. The whole process can take from a few months to a few years; full legal screens can take six months.

      The days of simple names like Viagra and Prozac are quickly disappearing. So as the new strange sounding drugs name appear, you can tell your friends you know why.

      More useless information just because I wanted to know more.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by George K
      #520

      @Ivorythumper when intravenous acetaminophen came on the market it was given a rather strange trade name: Ofirmev.

      When the drug sales-weasel rep was bribing us with lunch to push our use of it, I asked him about the rather odd sounding name. He told me, without as much detail, the same thing. The FDA is very sticky about names, and his company just asked a computer to come up with something that would get approved.

      Some brand names come about because of what they treat or because of a color

      A great example is "Dolobid." It was an analgesic to control pain ("dolor") and you took it twice a day ("b.i.d.").

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        My favorite drug name was "Soma" - seemed so appropriate - and also comforting.

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          Panama red is four syllables

          Acapulco gold is five

          Never stopped the stoners….

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #523

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #524

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                @jon-nyc I would think we would have a machine to do that. That looks like a very imprecise method and I bet the final result looks like it.

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                  More at: https://anglotopia.net/british-identity/dub-thee-get-knighthood-modern-era/

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                  "During Medieval times, becoming a knight was a method of social mobility. Beginning as a page, then moving up to squire, and finally becoming a knight. The position was one that was granted for service to a monarch, almost always for military service. Knights became their own social class, though still divided between noble and non-noble knights, and developed their own code of honour known as chivalry. Knights as a military order began to die out around the 15th Century when nations started to form professional armies. Since this time, what it means to be a knight and how one achieves this honour has changed."

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    #527

                    I thought about starting a meaningless factoids thread, but decided this belonged here.

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                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      I thought about starting a meaningless factoids thread, but decided this belonged here.

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                      #528

                      @Mik I wonder if that'll work next year...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        @Mik I wonder if that'll work next year...

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #529

                        @George-K it works every year after your birthday has passed.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Mildly interesting that it doesn’t check out. Might be a meme to make people do logic in their heads. Or maybe it is a mistake by the meme creator. Mildly interesting possibilities.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @George-K it works every year after your birthday has passed.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                            @George-K it works every year after your birthday has passed.

                            I knew that. My comment was meant to be sarcastic.

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Wiki: "In the 19th century and up to World War I, the Ottoman Empire cleared the land of Israel of its natural reserves of pine and oak trees, in order to build railways across the empire. Since it was founded the JNF (Jewish National Fund) has planted in Israel more than 185 million trees creating 280 forests, and still operates today."

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                Making the desert bloom.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      I thought about starting a meaningless factoids thread, but decided this belonged here.

                                      alt text

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                                      @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                                      I thought about starting a meaningless factoids thread, but decided this belonged here.

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                                      Every time you post that sort of link I get a blank page.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #537

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          @jon-nyc the HOA rules must be interesting.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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