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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    #2499

    I asked @Horace’s buddy.

    Great question. The relatively high percentage of 40-year-olds who had never married in the early 1900s—around 15–16%—can seem surprising, especially given the perception of earlier generations as marrying young and universally. Here are some key historical and social factors that likely contributed to that pattern:

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    🔹 1. High Male Mortality (e.g., war, workplace)
    • In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, workplace accidents, infectious diseases, and limited medical care disproportionately affected men.
    • Some men also delayed or avoided marriage due to economic instability or itinerant work (railroads, mining, etc.).

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    🔹 2. Economic Constraints
    • The early 20th century included economic uncertainty and hardship for many, particularly in rural areas. For men, marriage was often viewed as a financial responsibility they shouldn’t take on unless they were established.
    • For women, financial independence was limited, but familial obligations (like caring for aging parents) sometimes led them to remain single.

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    🔹 3. Social Norms and Immigration Effects
    • Large waves of immigrants in the late 1800s and early 1900s (especially from Southern and Eastern Europe) sometimes married later due to economic necessity, cultural adjustment, or unbalanced gender ratios in certain immigrant communities.

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    🔹 4. Urbanization and Changing Lifestyles
    • As cities grew, people began to leave traditional family structures. Some individuals delayed marriage while pursuing work or education, which was increasingly available—especially for men.

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    🔹 5. Data Considerations
    • Census enumeration methods and definitions of marriage status in the early 1900s may have been less consistent or inclusive (e.g., excluding common-law marriages or counting widowed/divorced differently), possibly inflating the “never married” category slightly compared to later surveys.

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    📉 Why It Dropped Afterward
    • From the 1930s through the 1960s, marriage rates soared. This era emphasized early marriage as a social norm, especially post-WWII during the “baby boom” years. That explains the dip in never-married rates among 40-year-olds (as low as 6% by 1980).

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    So, while it may seem counterintuitive, the early 20th-century U.S. had many social and economic pressures that either delayed or discouraged marriage for a notable minority of the population.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Mildly interesting thread

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      😊
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        🤣
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          @bachophile LOL. I thought for the first few seconds it was real.

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            @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

            Dayum. Come the apocalypse the Amish will rule the world.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Allegedly

              List of people that have walked on the Moon:
              Neil Armstrong 🇺🇸🪦
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              Pete Conrad 🇺🇸🪦
              Alan Bean 🇺🇸🪦
              Alan Shepard 🇺🇸🪦
              Edgar Mitchell 🇺🇸🪦
              David Scott 🇺🇸 93 yo
              James Irwin 🇺🇸🪦
              John Young 🇺🇸🪦
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              Harrison Schmitt 🇺🇸 89 yo

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                Link to video

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Screenshot 2025-06-27 at 9.57.31 PM.png

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    @jon-nyc That is base on longitude lines?

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                      My guess is solely latitude. There are no cities (metro areas) north of Tokyo with more than 37MM. None north of Seoul with more than 23, NY with more than 21, etc.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        I've only been to 4.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          I’ve always wanted to visit Murmansk and Longyearbyen.

                          The Brad

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                            I visit hammerfest constantly.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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