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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Yeah they do but it took me a minute. Those flat metal pieces go through a slot in the bottom horizontal bar. If you slide either of them out you can slide the bar out. Both locks need to be secured to prevent sliding them out.

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    @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

    Yeah they do but it took me a minute. Those flat metal pieces go through a slot in the bottom horizontal bar. If you slide either of them out you can slide the bar out. Both locks need to be secured to prevent sliding them out.

    So it would seem, but you can't slide the bar out from the bottom. The hasp is in the way. So again, the bottom two don't do anything.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      spin, spin, spin.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Well now you're just spinning it.... 😄

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              @jon-nyc quite cool

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                This is fascinating and beautiful but 400k?

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  I will never understand the fascination with expensive watches. Janet had a Rolex when we me. It was beautiful but needed a tune-up every two or three years at $300 a pop, and that was 30 years ago. I haven't spent $300 on watches in my life.

                  Again, there is a qualitative experiential difference between a Mercedes S class and an 88 (red) Corolla. two o'clock is 2 o'clock on a Rolex or a Timex.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I will never understand the fascination with expensive watches. Janet had a Rolex when we me. It was beautiful but needed a tune-up every two or three years at $300 a pop, and that was 30 years ago. I haven't spent $300 on watches in my life.

                    Again, there is a qualitative experiential difference between a Mercedes S class and an 88 (red) Corolla. two o'clock is 2 o'clock on a Rolex or a Timex.

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                    @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                    I will never understand the fascination with expensive watches. Janet had a Rolex when we me. It was beautiful but needed a tune-up every two or three years at $300 a pop, and that was 30 years ago. I haven't spent $300 on watches in my life.

                    Again, there is a qualitative experiential difference between a Mercedes S class and an 88 (red) Corolla. two o'clock is 2 o'clock on a Rolex or a Timex.

                    What’s the qualitative difference between an $30 pendant and a $30K pendant?

                    The Brad

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                      The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

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                        @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                        The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                        Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

                        The Brad

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I will never understand the fascination with expensive watches. Janet had a Rolex when we me. It was beautiful but needed a tune-up every two or three years at $300 a pop, and that was 30 years ago. I haven't spent $300 on watches in my life.

                          Again, there is a qualitative experiential difference between a Mercedes S class and an 88 (red) Corolla. two o'clock is 2 o'clock on a Rolex or a Timex.

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                          @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                          I will never understand the fascination with expensive watches. Janet had a Rolex when we me. It was beautiful but needed a tune-up every two or three years at $300 a pop, and that was 30 years ago. I haven't spent $300 on watches in my life.

                          That reminds me I need to send my IWC Portugueser in for a $500 tune up.

                          That’s a guess. It was maybe $375 when I did it last time but that was 15 years ago.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Honestly I’ll probably tune it one last time and give it to my son for college graduation.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                              The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                              Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Mildly interesting:

                              @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                              The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                              Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

                              In the case of the watch, the cheap option generally performs better.

                              I'm with Mik, I've never understood blowing tens of thousands on a watch.

                              I was only joking

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                                The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                                Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Mildly interesting:

                                @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                                The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                                Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

                                Because it is a large piece of furniture and needs to look good in your house. Beside that the difference in price between ebony and a wood finish is not orders of magnitude like between a functional and high-end watch.

                                If you wanted to use pianos, you could simply say the choice between a Samick and a Bechstein. There's a huge qualitative difference in the experience and the performance. That does not apply to watches.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                                  The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                                  Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

                                  Because it is a large piece of furniture and needs to look good in your house. Beside that the difference in price between ebony and a wood finish is not orders of magnitude like between a functional and high-end watch.

                                  If you wanted to use pianos, you could simply say the choice between a Samick and a Bechstein. There's a huge qualitative difference in the experience and the performance. That does not apply to watches.

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                                  @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @Mik said in Mildly interesting:

                                  The quality and beauty of the materials and design. But a pendant is not intended to measure anything or be informative.

                                  Okay, let’s put it this way. What’s the Qualitative Experiential Difference in spending an extra $15K to get a piano in Bubinga instead of Ebony? The performance of the piano is the same…

                                  Because it is a large piece of furniture and needs to look good in your house. Beside that the difference in price between ebony and a wood finish is not orders of magnitude like between a functional and high-end watch.

                                  If you wanted to use pianos, you could simply say the choice between a Samick and a Bechstein. There's a huge qualitative difference in the experience and the performance. That does not apply to watches.

                                  Yes, there’s a huge qualitative difference between a Bechstein and a Samick. That’s why I didn’t use that. But let’s stick with Bechstein. A Bechstein C8 upright piano is $88,000 in Vavona and $73,000 in Ebony. There is no qualitative difference in performance. It produces the same quality of tone, the same notes. It performs the basic function exactly the same. So why pay more?

                                  Now you note that the furniture might look better in your home. Great. But that’s subjective not quantitative, and is irrelevant to the primary purpose of the machine, to translate your input into music. So the subjective value of the appearance will justify the higher price despite no qualitative

                                  And yes, $15K isn’t orders of magnitude more expensive, but there are many other examples… Bösendorfer 225’s start ~ $200K Here’s one for $10,000,000 https://pollaro.com/moonlight/

                                  Pretty sure that’s orders of magnitude for an item whose primary function has no qualitative difference. Now we can argue that the Moonlight has other functions as cabinet, design, etc… I would argue that the same thing holds true for a watch. I’m not a watch guy (or jewelry at all for that matter), but I can understand it. I can see where having a beautiful piece if art and jewelry that is built by hand with that intricate machinery and still maintain time that is only .00000002% off a digital watch can be incredibly appealing…

                                  The Brad

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                                    You are deliberately missing the point. There’s not the huge difference between 73 and 88 as there is in watches.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      I dont have any expensive watches, but I think for people who "collect" them or buy them, they are like pieces or art.

                                      The price itself does not justify what you receive, just as if you were buying a painting by a famous person that costs USD$XXX+ dollars.

                                      For sure, if you just buying something to tell time, then you would not buy an expensive watch.

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                                        For a mere $430,000, you too can look like a Russian oligarch!

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                                        I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder

                                        I was only joking

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                                          On his deathbed, he'll have a Rosebud moment where a single tear will stream down his cheek as he laments that nobody ever asked him what time it was.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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