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What are you reading now?

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  • bachophileB Offline
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    Woodward book is fascinating. I’m going slow because I’m reading two other books concurrently. The WWII naval history (now on Leyte gulf) and a history of Assyria.

    First half of Woodward was all Ukraine. Now it’s Middle East

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      Also reading War. So far, Biden comes off pretty well in dealing with Ukraine with the exception of his famous gaffe where he went off script and seemed to suggest that a little intrusion might be OK. WTF!

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      • George KG Offline
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        Loved, LOVED, Century Rain. Probably worth a re-read.

        Up next, inspired by the TV series (I've enjoyed Hiassen, but it's been forever since I read any of his stuff).

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Just finished Ta-Nehisi Coates’ The Message. I was inspired to pick it up when listening to Glenn Loury’s podcast where he had some positive things to say about it. He and John McWhorter argued about it a bit but John hadn’t read it so they tabled a discussion about it until he did so. Having heard that it’s short, and seeing that it’s on Spotify, I decided to listen to it in order to get more out of their debate (which is now released though I’ve not yet listened to it).

          I’ll only make one point about it here, which is orthogonal to the message (no pun intended) of the book - Coates, who reads the audiobook, very consciously ‘axes’ his questions. Even in the past tense - “What’s the delay, he axed.” I’m guessing - no, I’m certain - that 20 years ago when he was getting his start at The Atlantic, he would have asked his questions instead.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            @jon-nyc Yes I'm sure you're right that it's performative blackness. I once heard a black scientist say it that way in a meeting 10 years ago. I had a moment of sympathetic cringe, but maybe that makes me a racist. In his case I think it was an askaccidental slip.

            @Axtremus what are your thoughts on this? Has anybody ever called you "Ask"? Did you karate chop them for it?

            Education is extremely important.

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            • George KG Offline
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              "Bad Monkey" was a fun read. I'd forgotten how much I like Hiassen's books. Lots of differences from the TV show (character importance, the way it ended (!)). Nevertheless fun.

              I've done "Tourist Season" and "Striptease."

              Gonna seek out more Hiassen.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  @jon-nyc Yes I'm sure you're right that it's performative blackness. I once heard a black scientist say it that way in a meeting 10 years ago. I had a moment of sympathetic cringe, but maybe that makes me a racist. In his case I think it was an askaccidental slip.

                  @Axtremus what are your thoughts on this? Has anybody ever called you "Ask"? Did you karate chop them for it?

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                  @Horace said in What are you reading now?:

                  @jon-nyc Yes I'm sure you're right that it's performative blackness. I once heard a black scientist say it that way in a meeting 10 years ago. I had a moment of sympathetic cringe, but maybe that makes me a racist.

                  A guy I worked with 30 years ago slipped it out while giving a presentation to a room full of white businessmen. I could tell he was mortified. I remember it made me think of how he has to code-switch and the rest of us don’t. I think Coates has reached the point where he’s just not going to do that anymore.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    I'm just starting Ta-Nehisi Coates’ The Message - after finishing Bernstein's War. War could have used better editing - seemed like a bit of a rush job to complete. Still, it was a helpful and interesting book. Bibi Netanyahu does not come off well.

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                      @Horace said in What are you reading now?:

                      @jon-nyc Yes I'm sure you're right that it's performative blackness. I once heard a black scientist say it that way in a meeting 10 years ago. I had a moment of sympathetic cringe, but maybe that makes me a racist.

                      A guy I worked with 30 years ago slipped it out while giving a presentation to a room full of white businessmen. I could tell he was mortified. I remember it made me think of how he has to code-switch and the rest of us don’t. I think Coates has reached the point where he’s just not going to do that anymore.

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                      @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                      @Horace said in What are you reading now?:

                      @jon-nyc Yes I'm sure you're right that it's performative blackness. I once heard a black scientist say it that way in a meeting 10 years ago. I had a moment of sympathetic cringe, but maybe that makes me a racist.

                      A guy I worked with 30 years ago slipped it out while giving a presentation to a room full of white businessmen. I could tell he was mortified. I remember it made me think of how he has to code-switch and the rest of us don’t. I think Coates has reached the point where he’s just not going to do that anymore.

                      Well, he's a standard bearer as a public intellectual whose blackness informs his every thought, so it's entirely on brand to present with typically black language.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                          800 pages of WWII naval history. Love it.

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                          @bachophile said in What are you reading now?:

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                          800 pages of WWII naval history. Love it.

                          Finished.

                          Absolutely the best work on naval WWII I’ve ever come across and I’ve tried a few.

                          It’s all encompassing but very readable.

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                            I have been reading the Sean Duffy detective stories by Adrian McKinty. I have read four of them so far. All were quite good. Very atmospheric.

                            Below is the summary of the first book. Kind of reminds me of the LA detective series,

                            @George-K may like this

                            Northern Ireland, spring 1981. Hunger strikes, riots, power cuts, a homophobic serial killer with a penchant for opera, and a young woman's suicide that may yet turn out to be murder: on the surface, the events are unconnected, but then things--and people--aren't always what they seem. Detective Sergeant Duffy is the man tasked with trying to get to the bottom of it all. It's no easy job--especially when it turns out that one of the victims was involved in the IRA but was last seen discussing business with someone from the loyalist Ulster Volunteer Force. Add to this the fact that, as a Catholic policeman, it doesn't matter which side he's on, because nobody trusts him, and Sergeant Duffy really is in a no-win situation. Fast-paced, evocative, and brutal, The Cold Cold Ground is a brilliant depiction of Belfast at the height of the Troubles--and of a cop treading a thin, thin line.

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                              Just started it. Very, very interesting.

                              Best trivia? Musk's father was thinking of naming him "Nice," pronounced like the city in France. Reconsidered when "nice musk" would be the way it was pronounced. Hard childhood and an easy read, so far.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                I'm enjoying this book more than I thought I would, having read more than a few books regarding the Civil War. One has to admire the way people wrote back then. I'm listening to the audiobook version - and found myself chuckling while on my run.

                                One quote I liked related to President Buchanan describing what would happen were he to relieve Major Anderson from his command of Fort Sumter, that when he left Washington and returned home, "the way would be lighted by his burning effigies."

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                                  I'm enjoying this book more than I thought I would, having read more than a few books regarding the Civil War. One has to admire the way people wrote back then. I'm listening to the audiobook version - and found myself chuckling while on my run.

                                  One quote I liked related to President Buchanan describing what would happen were he to relieve Major Anderson from his command of Fort Sumter, that when he left Washington and returned home, "the way would be lighted by his burning effigies."

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                                    Larson runs hot and cold for me. Devil in the White City is my favorite. In The Garden of Beasts was meh.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Just started it. Very, very interesting.

                                          Best trivia? Musk's father was thinking of naming him "Nice," pronounced like the city in France. Reconsidered when "nice musk" would be the way it was pronounced. Hard childhood and an easy read, so far.

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                                          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

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                                          The WSJ did an interview with Isaacson. Nothing really new if you've read the book other than some personal insights that didn't make it into print.

                                          Link to video

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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