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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    I have been reading (actually listening to) the books about Jack Reacher. I think @jolly mentioned the TV show, but these are the books I am talking about.

    I think they are turning into my "guilty pleasure". 5555

    I am really enjoying them. 😛

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    @taiwan_girl said in What are you reading now?:

    I have been reading (actually listening to) the books about Jack Reacher. I think @jolly mentioned the TV show, but these are the books I am talking about.

    I think they are turning into my "guilty pleasure". 5555

    I am really enjoying them. 😛

    Yeah guilty pleasures are fun. That’s why they’re called guilty pleasures, LOL.

    I found the Amazon version of the story so-so. Are the books better? Because Bosch.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      @taiwan_girl said in What are you reading now?:

      I have been reading (actually listening to) the books about Jack Reacher. I think @jolly mentioned the TV show, but these are the books I am talking about.

      I think they are turning into my "guilty pleasure". 5555

      I am really enjoying them. 😛

      Yeah guilty pleasures are fun. That’s why they’re called guilty pleasures, LOL.

      I found the Amazon version of the story so-so. Are the books better? Because Bosch.

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      @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

      @taiwan_girl said in What are you reading now?:

      I have been reading (actually listening to) the books about Jack Reacher. I think @jolly mentioned the TV show, but these are the books I am talking about.

      I think they are turning into my "guilty pleasure". 5555

      I am really enjoying them. 😛

      Yeah guilty pleasures are fun. That’s why they’re called guilty pleasures, LOL.

      I found the Amazon version of the story so-so. Are the books better? Because Bosch.

      What is Bosch? I know you have mentioned that name, but I dont know anything about it. Is it the character or the author?

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        Listening to this while working in the yard. It's quite enjoyable to listen to this version, if you like detail. I'm almost half done with it, and there's much left to do in the yard.

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        @brenda said in What are you reading now?:

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        Listening to this while working in the yard. It's quite enjoyable to listen to this version, if you like detail. I'm almost half done with it, and there's much left to do in the yard.

        Highly recommend. I enjoyed it immensely, and for so many aspects of the life he led. I try to use his perspective techniques from painting in my rug hooking when appropriate, and this was a good review, but there's something for everyone in this bio.
        Politics? Lots.
        Art guilds? Good explanations of how they were run.
        Other greats of the time, and his relationships with them? Oh, yes, indeed, and with some spicy details.
        Coverage of his scientific studies? Much and detailed.

        Again, I listened to this while doing some landscaping, and it was very easy to keep up with it at 1.2 speed. I find most recorded books go too slow, so I speed it up a bit.

        Not too technical, IMO, just enough to help explain and compare. Not dumbed down either.

        Enjoy!

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

          @taiwan_girl said in What are you reading now?:

          I have been reading (actually listening to) the books about Jack Reacher. I think @jolly mentioned the TV show, but these are the books I am talking about.

          I think they are turning into my "guilty pleasure". 5555

          I am really enjoying them. 😛

          Yeah guilty pleasures are fun. That’s why they’re called guilty pleasures, LOL.

          I found the Amazon version of the story so-so. Are the books better? Because Bosch.

          What is Bosch? I know you have mentioned that name, but I dont know anything about it. Is it the character or the author?

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          @taiwan_girl said in What are you reading now?:

          What is Bosch?

          Hieronymus "Harry" Bosch is a fictional detective. He is the chararacter that was the protagonist of a series on Amazon Prime. Brilliant detective show staring Titus Welliver.

          The TV series was based on the books written by Michael Connelly. There are now 25 books in the series. Connelly was the in the production crew of the TV series, so the shows are pretty faithful to the books, though the books have different characters, sometimes.

          If you like detective shows, check out Bosch. If you like mysteries, the books are tons of fun.

          Connelly is also the author of "The Lincoln Lawyer" series of books. He really cranks 'em out.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Just finished another Bosch book this afternoon ("Nine Dragons"). Good tale, and typical Bosch. It's interesting to see how characters in the TV series are different from the ones portrayed in the books.

            ***NSFW content***

            click to show

            Honey, "Money," Chandler, the ambulance-chasing lawyer is Harry's new employer in the "Bosch Legacy" series on IMDB. Connelly kills her off in the 3rd book.

            ***NSFW content***

            click to show

            Irving Irwin, the to-be chief of LAPD is not the straight arrow in the TV series. He is corrupt, with huge political ambitions (though Lance Reddick's character has those as well). He is dismissed (perhaps) halfway through the series.

            ***NSFW content***

            click to show

            Harry's ex-wife, Eleanor Wish is killed off in the series by a drive-by assassination in Los Angeles. In the books, she's the victim of being in the path of a stray bullet in Hong Kong.

            ***NSFW content***

            click to show

            Jim Edgar, his partner, is not nearly as prominent in the books. Halfway through the series, he's replaced by another, female partner, and later, by yet another.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Just finished another Bosch book this afternoon ("Nine Dragons"). Good tale, and typical Bosch. It's interesting to see how characters in the TV series are different from the ones portrayed in the books.

              ***NSFW content***

              click to show

              Honey, "Money," Chandler, the ambulance-chasing lawyer is Harry's new employer in the "Bosch Legacy" series on IMDB. Connelly kills her off in the 3rd book.

              ***NSFW content***

              click to show

              Irving Irwin, the to-be chief of LAPD is not the straight arrow in the TV series. He is corrupt, with huge political ambitions (though Lance Reddick's character has those as well). He is dismissed (perhaps) halfway through the series.

              ***NSFW content***

              click to show

              Harry's ex-wife, Eleanor Wish is killed off in the series by a drive-by assassination in Los Angeles. In the books, she's the victim of being in the path of a stray bullet in Hong Kong.

              ***NSFW content***

              click to show

              Jim Edgar, his partner, is not nearly as prominent in the books. Halfway through the series, he's replaced by another, female partner, and later, by yet another.

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              @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

              Just finished another Bosch book this afternoon ("Nine Dragons").

              Oh, guess who says "Hello!"

              “He called the number now and this time got an immediate answer.
              “Mickey Haller.”
              “It’s Bosch.”
              “Harry? I didn’t think I’d—”
              “I think I need a lawyer.”
              There was a pause.
              “Okay, when?”
              “Right now.”

              Yeah. Mickey Haller - The Lincoln Lawyer.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                I believe I've read this before, but I have no memory of it. It's not the easiest of reads by any means, but it's such a massively influential book. I really respect William Gibson's writing, but I find it hard work to get through.

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                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  I believe I've read this before, but I have no memory of it. It's not the easiest of reads by any means, but it's such a massively influential book. I really respect William Gibson's writing, but I find it hard work to get through.

                  c41e39e9-3d7d-486a-9949-6373afb7d2f3-image.png

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                  I believe I've read this before, but I have no memory of it. It's not the easiest of reads by any means, but it's such a massively influential book. I really respect William Gibson's writing, but I find it hard work to get through.

                  c41e39e9-3d7d-486a-9949-6373afb7d2f3-image.png

                  Yeah, it's fun. The whole Sprawl trilogy is great.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                    I believe I've read this before, but I have no memory of it. It's not the easiest of reads by any means, but it's such a massively influential book. I really respect William Gibson's writing, but I find it hard work to get through.

                    c41e39e9-3d7d-486a-9949-6373afb7d2f3-image.png

                    Yeah, it's fun. The whole Sprawl trilogy is great.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                    Yeah, it's fun. The whole Sprawl trilogy is great.

                    The weird thing is that this was the first book I read when I bought a Kindle, and yet I literally have no memory of it. I'm actually wondering whether I read a different book by accident.

                    Or I could have been having my Scotch phase, which was a thing.

                    I was only joking

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                      Everyone says that "Neuromancer" is the seminal work of cyberpunk sci-fi. I tried to do it as an audiobook about 8 years ago and gave up.

                      Perhaps I should try again, but MOAR Bosch is so tempting, because popcorn is satisfying.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Everyone says that "Neuromancer" is the seminal work of cyberpunk sci-fi. I tried to do it as an audiobook about 8 years ago and gave up.

                        Perhaps I should try again, but MOAR Bosch is so tempting, because popcorn is satisfying.

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                        @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                        Everyone says that "Neuromancer" is the seminal work of cyberpunk sci-fi. I tried to do it as an audiobook about 8 years ago and gave up.

                        Perhaps I should try again, but MOAR Bosch is so tempting, because popcorn is satisfying.

                        It's a great book. I find I have to read most of Gibson's stuff twice to figure out what the hell is going on. I did the same thing with Ep. 1 of The Expanse.

                        I'm a big fan of cyberpunk. Taking sci-fi in a different direction from Asimov, Heinlein and Clarke was a great thing to do.

                        I was only joking

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                          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                          Everyone says that "Neuromancer" is the seminal work of cyberpunk sci-fi. I tried to do it as an audiobook about 8 years ago and gave up.

                          Perhaps I should try again, but MOAR Bosch is so tempting, because popcorn is satisfying.

                          It's a great book. I find I have to read most of Gibson's stuff twice to figure out what the hell is going on. I did the same thing with Ep. 1 of The Expanse.

                          I'm a big fan of cyberpunk. Taking sci-fi in a different direction from Asimov, Heinlein and Clarke was a great thing to do.

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                          It's a great book.

                          Where to start? "Neuromancer?"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                            It's a great book.

                            Where to start? "Neuromancer?"

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                            @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                            It's a great book.

                            Where to start? "Neuromancer?"

                            That's the first one in the trilogy.

                            For cyberpunk, I've actually found Neal Stephenson's books easier - Snowcrash is a great book.

                            I also enjoyed The Windup Girl, and The Waterknife, by Paolo Bacigalupi.

                            Obviously, Aqua's almost certainly read a lot more of this stuff than me, so he might have some suggestions...

                            I was only joking

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                              @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                              It's a great book.

                              Where to start? "Neuromancer?"

                              That's the first one in the trilogy.

                              For cyberpunk, I've actually found Neal Stephenson's books easier - Snowcrash is a great book.

                              I also enjoyed The Windup Girl, and The Waterknife, by Paolo Bacigalupi.

                              Obviously, Aqua's almost certainly read a lot more of this stuff than me, so he might have some suggestions...

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                              @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                              It's a great book.

                              Where to start? "Neuromancer?"

                              That's the first one in the trilogy.

                              I'll give it another shot.

                              For cyberpunk, I've actually found Neal Stephenson's books easier - Snowcrash is a great book.

                              Vampires? Really? I tried.

                              I LOVED Seveneves, however. It didn't strike me as "punk," however.

                              I also enjoyed The Windup Girl, and The Waterknife, by Paolo Bacigalupi.

                              Yes. Windup Girl was fun (?) and it's on my "need to read again" list.

                              Obviously, Aqua's almost certainly read a lot more of this stuff than me, so he might have some suggestions...

                              Yeah, but he's more geeky than you and I put together.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                                @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                                It's a great book.

                                Where to start? "Neuromancer?"

                                That's the first one in the trilogy.

                                I'll give it another shot.

                                For cyberpunk, I've actually found Neal Stephenson's books easier - Snowcrash is a great book.

                                Vampires? Really? I tried.

                                I LOVED Seveneves, however. It didn't strike me as "punk," however.

                                I also enjoyed The Windup Girl, and The Waterknife, by Paolo Bacigalupi.

                                Yes. Windup Girl was fun (?) and it's on my "need to read again" list.

                                Obviously, Aqua's almost certainly read a lot more of this stuff than me, so he might have some suggestions...

                                Yeah, but he's more geeky than you and I put together.

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                                @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                Obviously, Aqua's almost certainly read a lot more of this stuff than me, so he might have some suggestions...

                                Philip K. Dick is like the O.G. of Cyberpunk. "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is of course the most well-known. Also a quick read.

                                Hardwired was good. Fun, Cyberpunk, 80s.

                                Infomocracy is kinda Gibsonesque, and fun to read for the ideas, but might be a little bland if you're looking for popcorn.

                                Altered Carbon's probably the most successful modern series in the genre, but Morgan's got another series that's pretty fun, too. Different premise, still cyberpunk. It starts with Thirteen. ("Black Man" in the U.K.)

                                Cyberpunk's also a big genre for graphic novels. Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis, and the original Ghost in the Shell and Akira series are really great fun.

                                For movies, A Scanner Darkly is great if you don't mind rotoscoping. Gattaca is as good as people say it is. If you like 12 Monkeys, you might also like Zero Theorem, also a Gilliam movie. Dark City's pretty good but it kinda didn't age well.

                                Yeah, but he's more geeky than you and I put together.

                                Link to video

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                  Obviously, Aqua's almost certainly read a lot more of this stuff than me, so he might have some suggestions...

                                  Philip K. Dick is like the O.G. of Cyberpunk. "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is of course the most well-known. Also a quick read.

                                  Hardwired was good. Fun, Cyberpunk, 80s.

                                  Infomocracy is kinda Gibsonesque, and fun to read for the ideas, but might be a little bland if you're looking for popcorn.

                                  Altered Carbon's probably the most successful modern series in the genre, but Morgan's got another series that's pretty fun, too. Different premise, still cyberpunk. It starts with Thirteen. ("Black Man" in the U.K.)

                                  Cyberpunk's also a big genre for graphic novels. Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis, and the original Ghost in the Shell and Akira series are really great fun.

                                  For movies, A Scanner Darkly is great if you don't mind rotoscoping. Gattaca is as good as people say it is. If you like 12 Monkeys, you might also like Zero Theorem, also a Gilliam movie. Dark City's pretty good but it kinda didn't age well.

                                  Yeah, but he's more geeky than you and I put together.

                                  Link to video

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                                  @Aqua-Letifer yeah. Dick is amazing. I've read a lot of his stuff and enjoyed it all.

                                  Altered Carbon was a lot of fun too. A lot "weirder" than "Androids" but very engaging.

                                  As to movies, yeah what you said. Shame about Dark City.

                                  Now, a question: what, exactly do you mean by "cyberpunk?" How does it differ from regular sci-fi? I never really thought of Dick as being anything other than speculative sci-fi.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    @Aqua-Letifer yeah. Dick is amazing. I've read a lot of his stuff and enjoyed it all.

                                    Altered Carbon was a lot of fun too. A lot "weirder" than "Androids" but very engaging.

                                    As to movies, yeah what you said. Shame about Dark City.

                                    Now, a question: what, exactly do you mean by "cyberpunk?" How does it differ from regular sci-fi? I never really thought of Dick as being anything other than speculative sci-fi.

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                                    @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                    Now, a question: what, exactly do you mean by "cyberpunk?" How does it differ from regular sci-fi? I never really thought of Dick as being anything other than speculative sci-fi.

                                    You can't really define cyberpunk without first defining what sci-fi was at the time. Sci-fi then dealt exclusively with astronaut-scientists going to distant galaxies, Martians, space military and interacting with aliens.

                                    Cyberpunk was never supposed to be its own genre—its first writers didn't intend that, they just wanted to write something different. But, well, it became a genre. Generally speaking, cyberpunk:

                                    • is set closer to our time
                                    • is dystopian
                                    • has elements of Gothic fiction: place is almost its own character in the story
                                    • borrows a lot from noir in terms of scene-setting
                                    • explores different ideas: corporate tyranny and capitalism run amok, biotech, information technology, and spy shit.

                                    There are a shitload of books and movies that now follow this as a formula.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                      Now, a question: what, exactly do you mean by "cyberpunk?" How does it differ from regular sci-fi? I never really thought of Dick as being anything other than speculative sci-fi.

                                      You can't really define cyberpunk without first defining what sci-fi was at the time. Sci-fi then dealt exclusively with astronaut-scientists going to distant galaxies, Martians, space military and interacting with aliens.

                                      Cyberpunk was never supposed to be its own genre—its first writers didn't intend that, they just wanted to write something different. But, well, it became a genre. Generally speaking, cyberpunk:

                                      • is set closer to our time
                                      • is dystopian
                                      • has elements of Gothic fiction: place is almost its own character in the story
                                      • borrows a lot from noir in terms of scene-setting
                                      • explores different ideas: corporate tyranny and capitalism run amok, biotech, information technology, and spy shit.

                                      There are a shitload of books and movies that now follow this as a formula.

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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                      cyberpunk:

                                      is set closer to our time
                                      is dystopian
                                      has elements of Gothic fiction: place is almost its own character in the story
                                      borrows a lot from noir in terms of scene-setting
                                      explores different ideas: corporate tyranny and capitalism run amok, biotech, information technology, and spy shit.

                                      Excellent description. Thanks. I think I get it now.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Today was a totally "nothing" day. No appointments, no chores, no visits.

                                        So, why not more Bosch?

                                        I really enjoyed this one. Two stories unfold, with nice references to past history.

                                        (Irving Irwin is a real a-hole)

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                                        The plot finds Bosch juggling two investigations: one an old cold-case murder that was reactivated by a new lead from DNA evidence, and the other the death of a politically-connected power broker in a fall from a hotel balcony.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          if you are into roman history, 750 pages, Yale University press, of very detailed analysis of the war in Judea, probably only for true "Rome" nerds.

                                          not so expensive for an academic text.

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