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What are you reading now?

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  • J jon-nyc
    23 Jun 2024, 00:16

    It’s excellent. Living the reich in ‘real time’ through his diary, but also getting a glimpse of what the life of a foreign correspondent in the 30s and 49s was like. Remember he was one of the original ‘Morrow’s boys”.

    I re-read Rise and Fall about every ten years. It’s excellent.

    Last year I read his The Collapse of the Third Repubic. I loved it but you kind of have to be into French history not just the war.

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    George K
    wrote on 23 Jun 2024, 00:19 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

    you kind of have to be into French history

    These people exist?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 23 Jun 2024, 00:20 last edited by
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      ‘People’ is a strong word, but yeah.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        jon-nyc
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        Finally.

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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          George K
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          Funny, I was thinking about starting that yesterday!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 21:06 last edited by
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            So did I, and I bought it. Started this morning.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              taiwan_girl
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              Part "travelogue", part spiritual quest for the meaning of life, part mystery, it is the story of a US guy who disappears while hiking in northern India. Quite interesting, and is actually quite a good read. It is a beautiful, yet somewhat isolated area.

              In August 2016, an experienced American trekker named Justin Alexander Shetler ascended to a high Himalayan lake on a pilgrimage in the Parvati Valley of northern India, never to be heard from again. He carried a walking stick that he’d partially fashioned into a flute, a woolen wrap and not much else, having shed most of his earthly possessions.

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              • J jon-nyc
                23 Jun 2024, 00:16

                It’s excellent. Living the reich in ‘real time’ through his diary, but also getting a glimpse of what the life of a foreign correspondent in the 30s and 49s was like. Remember he was one of the original ‘Morrow’s boys”.

                I re-read Rise and Fall about every ten years. It’s excellent.

                Last year I read his The Collapse of the Third Repubic. I loved it but you kind of have to be into French history not just the war.

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                @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                I re-read Rise and Fall about every ten years. It’s excellent.

                Jon, I just started The Third Reich Trilogy

                According to Ian Kershaw, it is "the most comprehensive history in any language of the disastrous epoch of the Third Reich".[5] It has been hailed as a "masterpiece of historical scholarship".[6]

                There are three volumes:

                The Coming of the Third Reich
                The Third Reich in Power
                The Third Reich at War

                I just started the first volume. A bit difficult for me, not really knowing much about European history (talking about Bismarck, etc. and how that set the basis for Nazi's), but I will continue with it for the time being. Mr. Evans, in his "preface" says that he tried to write it not too academic, but not too simplistic.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 00:12 last edited by
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                  William Shrirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" is a pretty easy read. I must've been about 16 when I read it. Of course, I've forgotten much, but I do remember how easy a read it was.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    Please love yourself.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        2 Jul 2024, 15:32

                        Finally.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 11:23 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                        Finally.

                        IMG_7835.jpeg

                        I finished this yesterday. I kept thinking that there’s so much good detail in there that probably had to be left out of the miniseries. I’ll watch it soon.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          15 Jul 2024, 11:23

                          @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                          Finally.

                          IMG_7835.jpeg

                          I finished this yesterday. I kept thinking that there’s so much good detail in there that probably had to be left out of the miniseries. I’ll watch it soon.

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                          Jolly
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                          @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                          @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                          Finally.

                          IMG_7835.jpeg

                          I finished this yesterday. I kept thinking that there’s so much good detail in there that probably had to be left out of the miniseries. I’ll watch it soon.

                          Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan may be the two best Hollywood productions concerning WW2. I was very disappointed in The Pacific, which would have been much better if they hadn't tried to meld two books into one story.

                          I have not seen Masters of the Air..

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly
                            15 Jul 2024, 12:30

                            @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                            @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                            Finally.

                            IMG_7835.jpeg

                            I finished this yesterday. I kept thinking that there’s so much good detail in there that probably had to be left out of the miniseries. I’ll watch it soon.

                            Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan may be the two best Hollywood productions concerning WW2. I was very disappointed in The Pacific, which would have been much better if they hadn't tried to meld two books into one story.

                            I have not seen Masters of the Air..

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:58 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in What are you reading now?:

                            @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                            @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                            Finally.

                            IMG_7835.jpeg

                            I was very disappointed in The Pacific, which would have been much better if they hadn't tried to meld two books into one story.

                            You'd really not like Masters.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                              15 Jul 2024, 12:58

                              @Jolly said in What are you reading now?:

                              @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                              @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                              Finally.

                              IMG_7835.jpeg

                              I was very disappointed in The Pacific, which would have been much better if they hadn't tried to meld two books into one story.

                              You'd really not like Masters.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:02 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                              You'd really not like Masters.

                              It was OK - it just didn't have the cohesive feel that Band of Brothers did. I couldn't relate to the characters until halfway through. The fact that they tried to shoehorn so much real history into a relatable tale made it feel that way.

                              BoB, however, follows ONE set of guys, each of whom is relatable from the outset.

                              I thing "The Pacific" had the same flaw, though I don't remember much of it.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                15 Jul 2024, 11:23

                                @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                                Finally.

                                IMG_7835.jpeg

                                I finished this yesterday. I kept thinking that there’s so much good detail in there that probably had to be left out of the miniseries. I’ll watch it soon.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:03 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                                I’ll watch it soon.

                                BTW: The guy who plays Winters...he's British.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  15 Jul 2024, 13:02

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                  You'd really not like Masters.

                                  It was OK - it just didn't have the cohesive feel that Band of Brothers did. I couldn't relate to the characters until halfway through. The fact that they tried to shoehorn so much real history into a relatable tale made it feel that way.

                                  BoB, however, follows ONE set of guys, each of whom is relatable from the outset.

                                  I thing "The Pacific" had the same flaw, though I don't remember much of it.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:08 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                  You'd really not like Masters.

                                  It was OK - it just didn't have the cohesive feel that Band of Brothers did. I couldn't relate to the characters until halfway through. The fact that they tried to shoehorn so much real history into a relatable tale made it feel that way.

                                  BoB, however, follows ONE set of guys, each of whom is relatable from the outset.

                                  That's how it happened, though. It's harder to write a cohesive story about the 8th Air Force because it's harder to find the exact same group of guys who stayed together all throughout the war.

                                  I thing "The Pacific" had the same flaw, though I don't remember much of it.

                                  I didn't think that was a flaw. Sledge and Leckie had very different perspectives about the same experiences. I think they didn't go hard enough with portraying that. To reject one over the other would have been a disservice.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                                    15 Jul 2024, 13:08

                                    @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                    You'd really not like Masters.

                                    It was OK - it just didn't have the cohesive feel that Band of Brothers did. I couldn't relate to the characters until halfway through. The fact that they tried to shoehorn so much real history into a relatable tale made it feel that way.

                                    BoB, however, follows ONE set of guys, each of whom is relatable from the outset.

                                    That's how it happened, though. It's harder to write a cohesive story about the 8th Air Force because it's harder to find the exact same group of guys who stayed together all throughout the war.

                                    I thing "The Pacific" had the same flaw, though I don't remember much of it.

                                    I didn't think that was a flaw. Sledge and Leckie had very different perspectives about the same experiences. I think they didn't go hard enough with portraying that. To reject one over the other would have been a disservice.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:10 last edited by
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                    That's how it happened, though. It's harder to write a cohesive story about the 8th Air Force because it's harder to find the exact same group of guys who stayed together all throughout the war.

                                    Exactly my point. Much, much harder, especially when you consider the mortality of these kids.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      15 Jul 2024, 13:10

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                      That's how it happened, though. It's harder to write a cohesive story about the 8th Air Force because it's harder to find the exact same group of guys who stayed together all throughout the war.

                                      Exactly my point. Much, much harder, especially when you consider the mortality of these kids.

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                                      @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                      That's how it happened, though. It's harder to write a cohesive story about the 8th Air Force because it's harder to find the exact same group of guys who stayed together all throughout the war.

                                      Exactly my point. Much, much harder, especially when you consider the mortality of these kids.

                                      Then how is it a flaw to stay true to that?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                                        15 Jul 2024, 13:10

                                        @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                        That's how it happened, though. It's harder to write a cohesive story about the 8th Air Force because it's harder to find the exact same group of guys who stayed together all throughout the war.

                                        Exactly my point. Much, much harder, especially when you consider the mortality of these kids.

                                        Then how is it a flaw to stay true to that?

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                                        George K
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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                        Then how is it a flaw to stay true to that?

                                        Perhaps "flaw" is the wrong word. My point is that the characters were just not as relatable as Winters, Nixon, etc - because they were scattered all over the place, and didn't have as much "screen time."

                                        Staying true to the story is not a flaw, but it makes the story (like the characters) disjointed. If you were to write a book, fiction, of course, you wouldn't do that.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          15 Jul 2024, 13:13

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                          Then how is it a flaw to stay true to that?

                                          Perhaps "flaw" is the wrong word. My point is that the characters were just not as relatable as Winters, Nixon, etc - because they were scattered all over the place, and didn't have as much "screen time."

                                          Staying true to the story is not a flaw, but it makes the story (like the characters) disjointed. If you were to write a book, fiction, of course, you wouldn't do that.

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                                          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in What are you reading now?:
                                          If you were to write a book, fiction, of course, you wouldn't do that.

                                          Depends on how you do it. Happens plenty in books, but movies, too. For example, no one complains about Pulp Fiction being disjointed.

                                          Not saying that's some formula they should have followed, just that the problem could have been overcome if they were more deliberate about it.

                                          Please love yourself.

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