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  • L Loki
    3 Mar 2021, 03:13

    @aqua-letifer said in What are you reading now?:

    @loki said in What are you reading now?:

    I tried to read the first and just felt you could learn a lot more in shorter and more interesting time from others.

    Then you missed the point.

    I'm not trying to be shitty or snobby about that. Peterson's a weird mix of things. I don't know much about clinical psychology or motivational self-help, so I can't speak to those aspects, but I know a lot about lit theory. Maps of Meaning is one of the most important books on the subject from the past century. Probably the most important of the past handful of decades. Not only is that true because of its insight—it's also true that no one else out there is even trying. Lit theory is currently undergoing a dark ages, and here comes this weird ass psychologist who talks about lobsters and room-cleaning and makes some of the most important contributions to the Humanities as anyone else alive. No, you literally can not find this information elsewhere, it's not taught anymore.

    Sorry I should have been more clear. I was referring to the 12 rules for life. I have found his you tubes interesting and of course he’s been talked a lot about here. So, in part, my comment was meant to elicit feedback. I have enjoyed him enough that I will give maps of meaning a whirl. Honestly I was caught a bit off guard by the 12 rules for life but I’ll allow for the fact I could be missing something.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @loki said in What are you reading now?:

    Sorry I should have been more clear. I was referring to the 12 rules for life.

    No I gotcha. 12 Rules isn't a lit theory book, but those lessons are baked in anyway. Maps of Meaning is much more dense. It took me several months to chip away at it because here and there I compared his analysis to source material.

    FWIW, I also think his lectures on Genesis and Exodus provide perspectives that fill a lot of modern gaps.

    Please love yourself.

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      kluurs
      wrote on 3 Mar 2021, 19:25 last edited by
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      I've followed this woman's career since she was a teen and recording for the Japanese label Denon. She's a talented person with a strong independent streak.

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      Started this one as well - not sure about it just yet.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 4 Mar 2021, 14:52 last edited by
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        Bailed on this one - not what I was looking for. Oddly enough, there are books on many body parts - knees, feet, skin, etc. - but there's almost nothing on teeth, history of dentistry, care, issues, etc. I was quite surprised.

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          George K
          wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 19:55 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 22:01 last edited by
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            Uhm, George? Everything okay?

            The Brad

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                20 Mar 2021, 20:43

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                George K
                wrote on 20 Mar 2021, 21:06 last edited by
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                @kluurs I really enjoyed that book.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 00:56 last edited by jon-nyc
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                  Re-reading it, first read it maybe 25 years ago. Exceptional book, holds your attention for all 1250 pages.

                  Shirer was an American journalist assigned to Europe, lived in Paris and Berlin and Vienna. He became one of Edward R Morrow's guys.

                  So many casual first person references, not as the story itself, just as side notes. Two examples:

                  He was in Vienna during the Anschluss.

                  I had emerged from the subway at the Karlsplatz to find myself engulfed in a shouting, hysterical Nazi mob which was sweeping toward the Inner City. These contorted faces I had seen before, at the Nuremberg party rallies. They were yelling, “Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Heil Hitler! Heil Hitler! Hang Schuschnigg!

                  He was at Munich in September of 38, and describes Chamberlain and Hitler as their meeting ended:

                  The ice, however, had been broken, and as the meeting broke up at 1:30 A.M. the two men seemed, despite all that had happened, to be closer together personally than at any time since they had first met. I myself, from a vantage point twenty-five feet away in the porter’s booth, where I had set up a temporary broadcasting studio, watched them say their farewells near the door of the hotel. I was struck by their cordiality to each other. Schmidt took down the words which I could not hear: ...

                  And on and on. It's really gripping. You don't really notice the length, any more than you do in a series that's several seasons long. I mean, other than it takes a couple months to finish. lol

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 00:59 last edited by jon-nyc
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                    It is long though, look at my current page number and progress through the book:

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                    But that's page 701 and the Nazis haven't even invaded Poland yet. It really does give a thorough cover to the rise of Hitler and his party.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      21 Mar 2021, 00:59

                      It is long though, look at my current page number and progress through the book:

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                      But that's page 701 and the Nazis haven't even invaded Poland yet. It really does give a thorough cover to the rise of Hitler and his party.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 01:01 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc I read that book decades ago.

                      I was probably about 18 years old, no, younger, when I read it.

                      You're right, it was a remarkable work. I should revisit it.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 01:05 last edited by Catseye3
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                        I've had this book in PB for very many years. Haven't redd it. Books come and go, that one always remains, getting more and more tattered as time passes. Someday.

                        Thanks for your comment. Maybe someday will come a bit sooner now.

                        ETA: Another book that has that same easy style that absorbs you is The Russians by Hedrick Smith. He wrote it based on his experiences as the Moscow NYT Bureau Chief. IIRC, the emphasis was very much on everyday life in Russia, and not so much on politics. (I could be wrong about that, though.)

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • G George K
                          13 Feb 2021, 23:16

                          @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                          I'm going to go thru the "Revelation Space" universe in chronological (not published) order. The short stories and novellas have given enough background to make it understandable.

                          Yeah. Reading them in chronological order is definitely worth the effort. Reynold's world-building is great. He has a very unique style - sometimes first-person, sometimes third-person.

                          Just started this the other day:

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                          "The once-utopian Chasm City -- a domed human settlement on an otherwise inhospitable planet -- has been overrun by a virus known as the Melding Plague, capable of infecting any body, organic or computerized. Now, with the entire city corrupted -- from the people to the very buildings they inhabit -- only the most wretched sort of existence remains. For security operative Tanner Mirabel, it is the landscape of nightmares through which he searches for a lowlife postmortal killer. But the stakes are raised when his search brings him face to face with a centuries-old atrocity that history would rather forget."

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                          George K
                          wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 00:12 last edited by
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                          @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                          Yeah. Reading them in chronological order is definitely worth the effort. Reynold's world-building is great. He has a very unique style - sometimes first-person, sometimes third-person.

                          Just started this the other day:

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                          Finishing this up this week. It's quite a ride.

                          Reynolds' books are like a jigsaw puzzle. You really don't know what the hell is going on until the end.

                          Sort of reminds me of "Salem's Lot." There are so many things, just hung out there, and then, WHAM!, they all come together. King seems to do it better, but these stories are pretty good as well, even if it takes longer to get them to "dovetail" together.

                          I'm gonna put Reynolds' stuff aside for a while, but I'm looking forward to getting into his stuff in the near future.

                          Considering getting back to the "Dune" universe with Brian Herbert's "Sisterhood of Dune."

                          @LuFins-Dad, have you read this?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            26 Mar 2021, 00:12

                            @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                            Yeah. Reading them in chronological order is definitely worth the effort. Reynold's world-building is great. He has a very unique style - sometimes first-person, sometimes third-person.

                            Just started this the other day:

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                            Finishing this up this week. It's quite a ride.

                            Reynolds' books are like a jigsaw puzzle. You really don't know what the hell is going on until the end.

                            Sort of reminds me of "Salem's Lot." There are so many things, just hung out there, and then, WHAM!, they all come together. King seems to do it better, but these stories are pretty good as well, even if it takes longer to get them to "dovetail" together.

                            I'm gonna put Reynolds' stuff aside for a while, but I'm looking forward to getting into his stuff in the near future.

                            Considering getting back to the "Dune" universe with Brian Herbert's "Sisterhood of Dune."

                            @LuFins-Dad, have you read this?

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                            wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 00:23 last edited by
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                            @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                            @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                            Yeah. Reading them in chronological order is definitely worth the effort. Reynold's world-building is great. He has a very unique style - sometimes first-person, sometimes third-person.

                            Just started this the other day:

                            Screen Shot 2021-02-13 at 5.15.06 PM.png

                            Finishing this up this week. It's quite a ride.

                            Reynolds' books are like a jigsaw puzzle. You really don't know what the hell is going on until the end.

                            Sort of reminds me of "Salem's Lot." There are so many things, just hung out there, and then, WHAM!, they all come together. King seems to do it better, but these stories are pretty good as well, even if it takes longer to get them to "dovetail" together.

                            I'm gonna put Reynolds' stuff aside for a while, but I'm looking forward to getting into his stuff in the near future.

                            Considering getting back to the "Dune" universe with Brian Herbert's "Sisterhood of Dune."

                            @LuFins-Dad, have you read this?

                            Not yet.

                            The Brad

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                              George K
                              wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 17:30 last edited by
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                              https://www.amazon.com/Obesity-Code-Unlocking-Secrets-Weight/dp/1771641258/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=obesity+code&qid=1616779778&sr=8-1

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                26 Mar 2021, 17:30

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                                https://www.amazon.com/Obesity-Code-Unlocking-Secrets-Weight/dp/1771641258/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=obesity+code&qid=1616779778&sr=8-1

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                                George K
                                wrote on 29 Mar 2021, 13:24 last edited by
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                                I finished Fung's book over the weekend. Totally fascinating reading. There's so much physiology involved, and he explains it so it's really simple to follow.

                                Bottom line: Your body has a "set point" for weight. That is set by the hypothalamus, and it can be modified by insulin. Like any other substance, your body becomes accustomed to a level of stimulation (think cocaine, narcotics) and to get the same effect, you need more and more. Insulin is the same. To get the same ability of moving glucose in the cells, you need more and more insulin, if your insulin levels are consistently high: Insulin resistance. As the required level of insulin climbs, the set point goes up as well. This doesn't happen overnight, it happens over years and years.

                                So, how to keep insulin down? Well, for one thing, don't eat! Eating stimulates insulin release, and some foods (sugars and some carbs) are notorious for causing a spike in insulin. Because it's a "spike" in satiety (these foods are quickly absorbed) you get hungry again and you eat again. A couple of cans of soda and a large steak may have the same number of calories, but which one keeps you satisfied longer? Duh...

                                He talks about how we transitioned from 3 meals a day to "grazing." Grazing doesn't allow insulin levels to fall, and the "set point" keeps going up and up. The importance of the set point can't be overstated. For example, think of a lean actor who needs to put on 30 lb for a role. His set point is at, say 180lb. He pigs out, balloons up to 210 lb for the movie. However, his set point is still at 180. After the movie is done, he can get back to 180 really quickly, and easily. It's the chronic, insidious rise of the set point that's the culprit.

                                Ghrelin is a hormone secreted by the gut. It's the "hunger" hormone. It spikes three times a day (guess what those times are) and when it does, you get hungry. If you get past the spike, however, you'll find that, in a couple of hours, you're not hungry any more. Those of us who have skipped breakfast or lunch find that a common occurrence. You want to eat a nice lunch, but you're busy at work. Suddenly, it's 3 pm and you've not eaten, and...you're not hungry.

                                Big discussion of artificial sweeteners - all of them cause an spike in insulin (bad thing).

                                Big discussion of rice. The Chinese consume more white rice than any other group, and until the 1970s, there was little obesity (though Mao may have had something to do with that, LOL). The incidence of type II diabetes was about 1.3%. As the nation became more industrialized, and sugar became a staple of their diet, the incidence of diabetes skyrocketed to 13.6%, higher than the US (at 13.3%).

                                It's an easy quick read and doesn't get too technical.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 20:15 last edited by
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                                  Having enjoyed "The Obesity Code," I thought I'd continue with one of Fung's other books:

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                                  Not nearly as compelling as "The Obesity Code," but a reasonably interesting read. He makes some...interesting assertions (particularly when it comes to...guess what? insulin), trying to link cancer to hyperinsulinemia.

                                  I'm not sure I buy it, but some of the other points he makes, such as the genetic diversity, of the same tumor; in fact the genetic diversity of the same actual tumor. Lots of discussion about nature/nurture (stomach and breast cancer in native Japanese vs immigrants and their families). There's a brief, and not particularly helpful chapter on screening, and not much is said about treatment. However, that's perhaps beyond the scope of what he wanted to say.

                                  It was an interesting diversion.

                                  I'd love to see what @bachophile has to say.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 20:37 last edited by
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                                    The Obesity Code looks very interesting - I've added it to my wish list.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      30 Mar 2021, 20:37

                                      The Obesity Code looks very interesting - I've added it to my wish list.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 20:43 last edited by George K
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                                      @doctor-phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                                      The Obesity Code looks very interesting - I've added it to my wish list.

                                      It really is. I've been talking about Fung and his approach to the physiology of obesity for a few years now. This book ties it all together and it all makes sense, particularly when looking at epidemiological data.

                                      Link to video

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Catseye3
                                        wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 20:47 last edited by Catseye3
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                                        Yes, fascinating! Thanks very much for posting about it, George.

                                        You see occasional references to the advantage of keeping track of your insulin on the Internet. It makes sense! Now Fung's book hopefully will give it more exposure.

                                        It's also going on my wish list.

                                        ETA: 16,700 ratings on Amazon, 4.5 stars.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 20:49 last edited by
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                                          What he says about artificial sweeteners is interesting. I've had a pet theory for a while that the reliance on these awful things has made the population considerably fatter.

                                          I was only joking

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