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WaPo factchecker: "Nazis were not socialists"

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    George K
    wrote on 31 May 2021, 12:07 last edited by
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/29/greenes-ahistorical-claim-that-nazis-were-socialists/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 31 May 2021, 13:32 last edited by
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      Let’s see...

      Nationalize all business and share all the profits across the people? Check

      Free College? Check

      Tearing down the banking and finance industry?

      Constantly denouncing materialism? Check.

      Abolishment of any religion that doesn’t match the “nation’s” moral standards? Check.

      The immediate and total silencing of contrary philosophies and points of view by any mans necessarily? Check.

      Extreme antisemitism? Check...

      Extreme anti-

      The Brad

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        George K
        wrote on 31 May 2021, 13:38 last edited by George K
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        https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-party-platform

        We demand therefore:

        1. The abolition of incomes unearned by work. The breaking of the slavery of interest. [….]

        2. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

        3. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

        4. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

        5. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municipal orders.

        6. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. [….]

        7. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

        8. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education (with the aim of opening up to every able and hard-working German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement). The curricula of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. The aim of the school must be to give the pupil, beginning with the first sign of intelligence, a grasp of the notion of the State (through the study of civic affairs). We demand the education of gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.

        9. The State must ensure that the nation’s health standards are raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and by the extensive support of clubs engaged in the physical training of youth.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Klaus
          wrote on 31 May 2021, 19:30 last edited by
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          The NSDAP was very "socialist" in the 1920s; in the 1930s the focus shifted more towards nationalism. But in any case, the name "national socialist party" was apt.

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          • K Klaus
            31 May 2021, 19:30

            The NSDAP was very "socialist" in the 1920s; in the 1930s the focus shifted more towards nationalism. But in any case, the name "national socialist party" was apt.

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            Horace
            wrote on 31 May 2021, 19:53 last edited by
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            @klaus said in WaPo factchecker: "Nazis were not socialists":

            The NSDAP was very "socialist" in the 1920s; in the 1930s the focus shifted more towards nationalism. But in any case, the name "national socialist party" was apt.

            Is there a way in which more nationalism implies less socialism?

            Education is extremely important.

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              31 May 2021, 19:53

              @klaus said in WaPo factchecker: "Nazis were not socialists":

              The NSDAP was very "socialist" in the 1920s; in the 1930s the focus shifted more towards nationalism. But in any case, the name "national socialist party" was apt.

              Is there a way in which more nationalism implies less socialism?

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              Klaus
              wrote on 31 May 2021, 20:37 last edited by
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              @horace said in WaPo factchecker: "Nazis were not socialists":

              @klaus said in WaPo factchecker: "Nazis were not socialists":

              The NSDAP was very "socialist" in the 1920s; in the 1930s the focus shifted more towards nationalism. But in any case, the name "national socialist party" was apt.

              Is there a way in which more nationalism implies less socialism?

              Yes. A party cannot have an arbitrary number of main goals. If you focus on exterminating Jews, less resources remain to focus on exterminating capitalism.

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