What to tip?
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I really hope you're not a repeat customer anywhere. If so, chances are high you've eaten some pissauce.
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@Copper said in What to tip?:
Any tip is charity.
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How much I tip a worker is based on how hard the person whom I'm tipping worked, as well as how friendly he or she was to me.
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I don’t tip based on the amount for delivery. It doesn’t matter if I ordered a single sandwich or 2 pizzas, it’s the same trip for the driver.
For pickup, it depends on where I am picking up from. If it’s a a Chipotle (son is addicted), then it’s 20% (though I dislike this upward creep of tip amounts, 15% used to be the standard). If it’s the Mexican place near my work, I’ll typically order an $8 lunch and give a $12 tip.
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You tip $20 for a delivery? Wow. That sounds excessive to me.
Nobody here tips a delivery guy, except maybe rounding to the next whole number. And that's a good thing. Just pay people a decent salary and stop the tipping BS. It's rather condescending if you think about it.
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@Klaus said in What to tip?:
You tip $20 for a delivery? Wow. That sounds excessive to me.
Nobody here tips a delivery guy, except maybe rounding to the next whole number. And that's a good thing. Just pay people a decent salary and stop the tipping BS. It's rather condescending if you think about it.
You've never had that job, so you should stop bullshitting about what you don't understand.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in What to tip?:
@Klaus said in What to tip?:
You tip $20 for a delivery? Wow. That sounds excessive to me.
Nobody here tips a delivery guy, except maybe rounding to the next whole number. And that's a good thing. Just pay people a decent salary and stop the tipping BS. It's rather condescending if you think about it.
You've never had that job, so you should stop bullshitting about what you don't understand.
Well, you are misinformed. I understand the matter quite well, and I did my share of work in such kinds of jobs.
Ask 10 delivery guys here whether they'd swap their current terms with the American tipping model, and you'd get 11 resounding "Hell no!".
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@Klaus said in What to tip?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in What to tip?:
@Klaus said in What to tip?:
You tip $20 for a delivery? Wow. That sounds excessive to me.
Nobody here tips a delivery guy, except maybe rounding to the next whole number. And that's a good thing. Just pay people a decent salary and stop the tipping BS. It's rather condescending if you think about it.
You've never had that job, so you should stop bullshitting about what you don't understand.
Well, you are misinformed. I understand the matter quite well, and I did my share of work in such kinds of jobs.
Ask 10 delivery guys here whether they'd swap their current terms with the American tipping model, and you'd get 11 resounding "Hell no!".
You did those jobs in Germany. And the people you'd ask never worked here.
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My brother-in-law worked for 40 years as a Pizza Delivery Driver and lived a solid middle class life off of tips in Cincinnati...
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@Aqua-Letifer said in What to tip?:
You did those jobs in Germany. And the people you'd ask never worked here.
True, just as you probably never worked over here.
You can say a lot in favor of American economic strength, average GDPs and whatnot. But according to basically any reasonable measure you can think of, a delivery guy is way better off here, with a stable and somewhat decent income, a contract that can only be terminated for good reasons, and a health insurance that will pay a 500.000 Euro medical procedure without him or her paying a single cent.
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Yeah, the health insurance and benefits thing is definitely better over there. But guaranteed you make more here.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in What to tip?:
Yeah, the health insurance and benefits thing is definitely better over there. But guaranteed you make more here.
You sure? Let's see. I looked up what a delivery guy for DHL makes on average.
Average salary is around 35K Euro per year. That salary includes full health insurance with no deductibles, pension insurance that pays around 60% of your salary after you retire, unemployment insurance that pays your salary for 12 months if you are fired, a nursing insurance that will pay for a nursing home etc., and a contract that only allows DHL to fire you if you do something stupid or if they run out of money. Also, you can afford to send all your kids to the best college in the country.
How does that compare to a similar job in the US?
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I made about 35k equivalent salary when I delivered, and that was in a very rural area and when I started, before I got a line cook's wages in addition to delivery fees and tips. Also, it was common practice not to declare tips.
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Wait, DHL is a package and freight service. The equivalent is UPS. They start at 42K and the pay increases with seniority up to $110K or so with 25 years. And they aren’t tipped except for holidays...
What Aqua and most of the US contingent are discussing is food delivery. Generally meal delivery, but also the newer phenomenon of grocery delivery.
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We’ve been taking out once a week at restaurants, some we would would normally eat at. I’ve been leaving a 20% tip when I go pick stuff up. Even at the pizza places that I didn’t used to tip at for carry out. It’s interesting, one of the smaller places said they are actually doing a better business now with takeout than they ever did with sit-down.