Trump lies about Jan 6
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@copper said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
They shouldn’t have killed the policeman
They really ought to make it illegal or something.
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What exactly is incorrect about her statement?
(BTW, I do think that Secretary Clinton should just go away)
"An angry mob attacked our Capitol, our lawmakers, and our election."
Was it a happy mob? Is was not the Capitol they attacked?
"They killed a policeman."
I do believe a policeman died. Would he have died if nothing happened that day? Many times we give a cause of death because of the circumstances about the death. For example, if someone is in the military and is in country X where there is a war. That person is driving down the street in no immediate danger and runs into a tree and dies. Was he killed in action?
"And Republican leaders would rather we all not know more about what happened."
I disagree with this. I doubt this is the case.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
What exactly is incorrect about her statement?
"They killed a policeman."This.
The policeman died of "natural causes."
A day later.
You may dispute it, but that's the official cause of death.
Ms. Clinton is making things up. If she has evidence, rather than speculation about his cause of death, she should present it.
As a matter of record, two (I believe) people died as a result of the riot - one by being trampled by the crowd, and another (unarmed person) by a gunshot from an unnamed police officer.
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@george-k said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
You may dispute it, but that's the official cause of death.
Not disputing it, but there is always going to be the question of if the riot contributed.
For example, a robber steals something. A police chases him. The policeman has a heart attack and dies. The robber is charged with manslaughter.
Something like this
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
What exactly is incorrect about her statement?
(BTW, I do think that Secretary Clinton should just go away)
"An angry mob attacked our Capitol, our lawmakers, and our election."
Was it a happy mob? Is was not the Capitol they attacked?
"They killed a policeman."
I do believe a policeman died. Would he have died if nothing happened that day? Many times we give a cause of death because of the circumstances about the death. For example, if someone is in the military and is in country X where there is a war. That person is driving down the street in no immediate danger and runs into a tree and dies. Was he killed in action?
"And Republican leaders would rather we all not know more about what happened."
I disagree with this. I doubt this is the case.
"An angry mob attacked our Capitol, our lawmakers, and our election."
No lawmakers were attacked, the election was not attacked. The Capitol being attacked? That’s playing fast and loose with language. To me, an attack is an intentional attempt to inflict significant damage. Like setting off a bomb. Like Mr. Obama’s good personal friends did.
As far as the policeman, If I get into an argument with someone, and he strokes out, did I kill him? Am I responsible?
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Fucking Hillary. The worst candidate in 2016. And, let's be honest, she was up against some pretty stiff competition for that particular accolade.
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@lufins-dad said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
If I get into an argument with someone, and he strokes out, did I kill him? Am I responsible?
Yeah, well. Good idea to keep it down around here.
Hey, I wonder what a "real" attack would have looked like. Maybe using crowbars and sledgehammers, bolt cutters, smashing windows and crawling in, screaming the names of who they will kill in the attack. battering ram to get through doors (oops, they were unlocked).
I mean, really. There are dozens of examples over the years how this is done in other countries. Don't we have TV in this country, to see how it's done? Please. When you attack, don't laugh out loud, knock off the smiley pose for the cameras.Keeel with abandon, not with a fire extinguisher.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
For example, a robber steals something. A police chases him. The policeman has a heart attack and dies. The robber is charged with manslaughter.
Officer Sicknick died 30 hours after his encounter with the rioters of a basilar artery thrombosis (rather than hemorrhage) , not a heart attack.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump lies about Jan 6:
The policeman has a heart attack and dies.
The adrenaline from the doofusses taking selfies prolonged his life.
Without them, he would have died on the 6th.