Here comes the middle-class tax hike
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@doctor-phibes said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
Another pointless anecdote - we interviewed a guy in his mid-40's for a job, and explained in detail about the full pension that's offered, and how it's so unusual nowadays.
He took a competing job that offered $5K more, with no pension.
My boss asked whether we should make a counter-offer, and I said no, I don't want to hire somebody that dumb.
Fair assessment. Unless he's yet another job hopper who doesn't plan on staying anyway. These people are legion. People like me who stick around, mostly due to a general lack of ambition and profound laziness, end up with cultural knowledge that the job hoppers never achieve, while their resumes ever burgeon with useless junk, and while they convince themselves that they learn so much going from job to job.
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Yeah, if you change jobs every three years you've got no reason to complain about the lack of pension.
There's a lot to be said for lack of ambition and profound laziness. Or so I've heard.
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@horace said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
@doctor-phibes said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
Another pointless anecdote - we interviewed a guy in his mid-40's for a job, and explained in detail about the full pension that's offered, and how it's so unusual nowadays.
He took a competing job that offered $5K more, with no pension.
My boss asked whether we should make a counter-offer, and I said no, I don't want to hire somebody that dumb.
Fair assessment. Unless he's yet another job hopper who doesn't plan on staying anyway. These people are legion. People like me who stick around, mostly due to a general lack of ambition and profound laziness, end up with cultural knowledge that the job hoppers never achieve, while their resumes ever burgeon with useless junk, and while they convince themselves that they learn so much going from job to job.
Most young guys today are job hoppers. $5000/yr is a different universe for them
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@jolly said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
@horace said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
@doctor-phibes said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
Another pointless anecdote - we interviewed a guy in his mid-40's for a job, and explained in detail about the full pension that's offered, and how it's so unusual nowadays.
He took a competing job that offered $5K more, with no pension.
My boss asked whether we should make a counter-offer, and I said no, I don't want to hire somebody that dumb.
Fair assessment. Unless he's yet another job hopper who doesn't plan on staying anyway. These people are legion. People like me who stick around, mostly due to a general lack of ambition and profound laziness, end up with cultural knowledge that the job hoppers never achieve, while their resumes ever burgeon with useless junk, and while they convince themselves that they learn so much going from job to job.
Most young guys today are job hoppers. $5000/yr is a different universe for them
This guy was in his 40's with kids. We reckon the pension is worth roughly $25K a year. You've only got to work there for 5 years to be vested.
No doubt when he's in his 60's he'll complain about how the middle class have done so badly.
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@doctor-phibes said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
This guy was in his 40's with kids. We reckon the pension is worth roughly $25K a year. You've only got to work there for 5 years to be vested.
Is the $5k/yr the only difference or are their other differences? Stock options from a startup, perhaps?
Different type of work or different levels of responsibility?
Different level of title, maybe?
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@axtremus said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
@doctor-phibes said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
This guy was in his 40's with kids. We reckon the pension is worth roughly $25K a year. You've only got to work there for 5 years to be vested.
Is the $5k/yr the only difference or are their other differences? Stock options from a startup, perhaps?
Different type of work or different levels of responsibility?
Different level of title, maybe?
Different boss (not you)?Actually, his new office desk will levitate through anti-gravitational waves, but sadly, only on days that have high tides in the region. That's quite a perk.
Or maybe it's not just gravitational waves that make his desk elevate. It could always have help...
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For all the talk about the loss of the middle class USA person (which I am not sure is true), most people in the US dont really know how good they have it, when compared to the rest of the world.
One of my friends was joking that being poor in the US meant that your iPhone was 3 (or more) generations behind.
Those "poor" people should visit rural India (or even the house I grew up in).
Of course, there are really poor people in the US who struggle, and even middle class people who struggle, but all in all, most people in the US have it pretty good.
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@taiwan_girl said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
One of my friends was joking that being poor in the US meant that your iPhone was 3 (or more) generations behind.
We've had this conversation in the past.
The "poor" people have two cars, air conditioning, a couple of flatscreen TVs and cable.
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@george-k said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
@taiwan_girl said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
One of my friends was joking that being poor in the US meant that your iPhone was 3 (or more) generations behind.
We've had this conversation in the past.
The "poor" people have two cars, air conditioning, a couple of flatscreen TVs and cable.
The really poor people only have ONE car. 555
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Education is extremely important.
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@horace said in Here comes the middle-class tax hike:
American citizenship has massive advantages as compared to third world citizenship. That's why we don't let just anybody in.
On the negative side, you're still Americans.
