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California to Uber: "You have 8 ½ years."

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://fee.org/articles/california-just-passed-a-new-environmental-mandate-that-could-ruin-uber/

    The California Air Resources Board just unanimously voted to mandate that Uber and Lyft rides must almost entirely switch to electric vehicles.

    “California's clean air regulator on Thursday adopted rules to mandate that nearly all trips on Uber and Lyft ride-hailing platforms have to be in electric vehicles over the next few years, the first such regulation by a U.S. state,” Fox Business reports. “The rules... mandate that EVs account for 90% of ride-hailing vehicle miles traveled by 2030.”

    Make no mistake: This is a drastic switch. Right now, only a tiny fraction of cars on the road are powered by electricity. And electric vehicles, despite enormous government subsidies, continue to be significantly more expensive than the typical vehicle.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      https://fee.org/articles/california-just-passed-a-new-environmental-mandate-that-could-ruin-uber/

      The California Air Resources Board just unanimously voted to mandate that Uber and Lyft rides must almost entirely switch to electric vehicles.

      “California's clean air regulator on Thursday adopted rules to mandate that nearly all trips on Uber and Lyft ride-hailing platforms have to be in electric vehicles over the next few years, the first such regulation by a U.S. state,” Fox Business reports. “The rules... mandate that EVs account for 90% of ride-hailing vehicle miles traveled by 2030.”

      Make no mistake: This is a drastic switch. Right now, only a tiny fraction of cars on the road are powered by electricity. And electric vehicles, despite enormous government subsidies, continue to be significantly more expensive than the typical vehicle.

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      Loki
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      Look how fast the world got cellphones. Make it attractive enough and people will beg for it. I put my money on electric cars being ready by then at a reliability, price and distance ability where people won’t want traditional engines for the most part. Always the record enthusiasts out there,

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        Look how fast the world got cellphones. Make it attractive enough and people will beg for it. I put my money on electric cars being ready by then at a reliability, price and distance ability where people won’t want traditional engines for the most part. Always the record enthusiasts out there,

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        @loki said in California to Uber: "You have 8 ½ years.":

        Look how fast the world got cellphones. Make it attractive enough and people will beg for it. I put my money on electric cars being ready by then at a reliability, price and distance ability where people won’t want traditional engines for the most part. Always the record enthusiasts out there,

        The infrastructure isn't there to support it. How many Uber/Lyft drivers will sit at a charging station to charge for 30 minutes? I wouldn't.

        Of that group, I'd venture to guess that a significant number live in multifamily housing, condos, townhouses, apartments. The charging infrastructure for at-home, overnight charging isn't there either.

        Finally, what percentage of Uber/Lyft drivers will ditch their gasoline powered vehicle and trade for an EV so that they can keep that gig going? Small number, I'd guess. THey'll find something else - Instacart, Doordash, etc.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @loki said in California to Uber: "You have 8 ½ years.":

          Look how fast the world got cellphones. Make it attractive enough and people will beg for it. I put my money on electric cars being ready by then at a reliability, price and distance ability where people won’t want traditional engines for the most part. Always the record enthusiasts out there,

          The infrastructure isn't there to support it. How many Uber/Lyft drivers will sit at a charging station to charge for 30 minutes? I wouldn't.

          Of that group, I'd venture to guess that a significant number live in multifamily housing, condos, townhouses, apartments. The charging infrastructure for at-home, overnight charging isn't there either.

          Finally, what percentage of Uber/Lyft drivers will ditch their gasoline powered vehicle and trade for an EV so that they can keep that gig going? Small number, I'd guess. THey'll find something else - Instacart, Doordash, etc.

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          @george-k said in California to Uber: "You have 8 ½ years.":

          @loki said in California to Uber: "You have 8 ½ years.":

          Look how fast the world got cellphones. Make it attractive enough and people will beg for it. I put my money on electric cars being ready by then at a reliability, price and distance ability where people won’t want traditional engines for the most part. Always the record enthusiasts out there,

          The infrastructure isn't there to support it. How many Uber/Lyft drivers will sit at a charging station to charge for 30 minutes? I wouldn't.

          Of that group, I'd venture to guess that a significant number live in multifamily housing, condos, townhouses, apartments. The charging infrastructure for at-home, overnight charging isn't there either.

          Finally, what percentage of Uber/Lyft drivers will ditch their gasoline powered vehicle and trade for an EV so that they can keep that gig going? Small number, I'd guess. THey'll find something else - Instacart, Doordash, etc.

          I agree if the infrastructure problem isn’t solved it won’t work. I think that is the number 1 reason some electric owners(20%?) go back to gas. My thought is that problem will be solved. Also pretty soon it will be 500 miles and overnight charging will be fine.

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            $5/gallon gas might push things along....

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              Not if you want to help the middle class. Say... you don't think he's insincere about that do you?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Because when we switch our transportation to electricity it will drastically change this picture from the EPA.

                All that dirty Transportation will be replaced by dirty Electricity.

                Nice investment

                ![alt text](64a4262f-d90c-4848-9f4a-15b2604259a1-image.png image url)

                https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions

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