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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    Ah, the good old days ...

    Link to video

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    • George KG Offline
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      I only watched the first half, because I knew what was coming in the second half.

      So, point by point:

      1. "Ending some restrictions on stem cell research."

      He lifted the ban on embryonic stem cell research funded by the government. There never was any ban on private research of stem cells, embryonic or other.

      (By the way, how did that embryonic stem cell research work out? Michael J. Fox has been silent on that.)

      1. He held s science fair at the White House. How is that "scientific" rather than a public relations stunt? I wonder if someone had a "cool clock."

      2. After the pandemic, his agencies failed to replenish vital PPE, letting them rot or become non-functional. In fairness, Trump didn't either. To his credit, 43 was worried about this.

      Again, to be fair, Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does, but this kind of hagiography is positively Hannity-esque.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        I only watched the first half, because I knew what was coming in the second half.

        So, point by point:

        1. "Ending some restrictions on stem cell research."

        He lifted the ban on embryonic stem cell research funded by the government. There never was any ban on private research of stem cells, embryonic or other.

        (By the way, how did that embryonic stem cell research work out? Michael J. Fox has been silent on that.)

        1. He held s science fair at the White House. How is that "scientific" rather than a public relations stunt? I wonder if someone had a "cool clock."

        2. After the pandemic, his agencies failed to replenish vital PPE, letting them rot or become non-functional. In fairness, Trump didn't either. To his credit, 43 was worried about this.

        Again, to be fair, Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does, but this kind of hagiography is positively Hannity-esque.

        AxtremusA Offline
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        @George-K said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

        Again, to be fair, Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does, ...

        If only Trump stops at letting his mouth run faster than his brain. Trump also drags other people in his administration to go where his mouth was, no matter how wrong his mouth has been, and that have real world consequences beyond the rhetoric.

        Take the Sharpie incident, for example, Trump could have stopped at acknowledging that he misspoke about the path of the hurricane, he could have let the White House spokesperson or Communication Director clarify that it was an unintentional mistake. But no, he had to use Sharpie to draw on a map, and dragged the NOAA through the mud.

        Trump's ignorance and mistrust of science lessened scientific input into the policy making process. Coupled with Trump's thin skin, it makes the people of science fearful of speaking up to correct whatever misinformation that came from Trump letting his mouth run faster than his brain.

        Be it hydroxychloroquine or bleach injection, suppose they started from a simple matter of Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain, they could have been clarified and corrected quickly if Trump had people close to him who can clarify and correct those quickly and let them. But no, Trump staffed his administration with sycophants and Trump's track record is such that people who know better who could clarify and correct him fear to do so. You end up with a totally unnecessary run on hydroxychloroquine, and an unnecessary shortage of same for patients who actually need hydroxychloroquine.

        When Trump said to reopen America by Easter, you can say it's Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain again, but it actually went further than that because that statement makes people who work in his administration scramble to either defend or make real that statement, and that's in the middle of a pandemic where ideally you want to these people focus on managing the real crisis at hand rather than managing Trump's latest food-in-mouthilitis.

        Saying "Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does" is not "to be fair," but "to understate overly charitably" Trump's own short-comings and Trump's corrupt influence on those around him.

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          @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

          When Trump said to reopen America by Easter, you can say it's Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain again"

          Good job, Ax! But unlike Biden, at least Trump's brain is connected to his mouth. We've had years to get to know Trump, and his big mouth. He's fun, and the media love him.

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            @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

            When Trump said to reopen America by Easter, you can say it's Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain again"

            Good job, Ax! But unlike Biden, at least Trump's brain is connected to his mouth. We've had years to get to know Trump, and his big mouth. He's fun, and the media love him.

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            The jury is still out on chloroquine so one should be a little careful on that. If you want to seriously throw in bleach injections you just revealed where you are coming from and where you are going.

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              @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

              When Trump said to reopen America by Easter, you can say it's Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain again"

              Good job, Ax! But unlike Biden, at least Trump's brain is connected to his mouth. We've had years to get to know Trump, and his big mouth. He's fun, and the media love him.

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              @Rainman said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

              @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:
              But unlike Biden, at least Trump's brain is connected to his mouth.

              I don't that's his mouth 🙂

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Rainman said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

                @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:
                But unlike Biden, at least Trump's brain is connected to his mouth.

                I don't that's his mouth 🙂

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

                @Rainman said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

                @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:
                But unlike Biden, at least Trump's brain is connected to his mouth.

                I don't that's his mouth 🙂

                Speaking of disconnects.... 😆

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @George-K said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

                  Again, to be fair, Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does, ...

                  If only Trump stops at letting his mouth run faster than his brain. Trump also drags other people in his administration to go where his mouth was, no matter how wrong his mouth has been, and that have real world consequences beyond the rhetoric.

                  Take the Sharpie incident, for example, Trump could have stopped at acknowledging that he misspoke about the path of the hurricane, he could have let the White House spokesperson or Communication Director clarify that it was an unintentional mistake. But no, he had to use Sharpie to draw on a map, and dragged the NOAA through the mud.

                  Trump's ignorance and mistrust of science lessened scientific input into the policy making process. Coupled with Trump's thin skin, it makes the people of science fearful of speaking up to correct whatever misinformation that came from Trump letting his mouth run faster than his brain.

                  Be it hydroxychloroquine or bleach injection, suppose they started from a simple matter of Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain, they could have been clarified and corrected quickly if Trump had people close to him who can clarify and correct those quickly and let them. But no, Trump staffed his administration with sycophants and Trump's track record is such that people who know better who could clarify and correct him fear to do so. You end up with a totally unnecessary run on hydroxychloroquine, and an unnecessary shortage of same for patients who actually need hydroxychloroquine.

                  When Trump said to reopen America by Easter, you can say it's Trump letting his mouth ran faster than his brain again, but it actually went further than that because that statement makes people who work in his administration scramble to either defend or make real that statement, and that's in the middle of a pandemic where ideally you want to these people focus on managing the real crisis at hand rather than managing Trump's latest food-in-mouthilitis.

                  Saying "Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does" is not "to be fair," but "to understate overly charitably" Trump's own short-comings and Trump's corrupt influence on those around him.

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                  @Axtremus said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

                  @George-K said in Nostalgia, the good old days ...:

                  Again, to be fair, Trump lets his mouth run faster than his brain does, ...

                  If only Trump stops at letting his mouth run faster than his brain.

                  This is a common misconception.

                  His brain is so fast it keeps up with his mouth.

                  The problem is that most listeners brains can't keep up.

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